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Texas to Succeed from the USA?



April 21, 2009 – Comments (15) | RELATED TICKERS: NR , A

Ron Paul: Secession is American

09:41 AM ET Kiran Chetry - Anchor, CNN's American Morning

Filed under: Controversy • Politics CNN's Kiran Chetry speaks to Rep. Ron Paul about Texas' governor's secession suggestion.

For ten years, Texas was a sovereign territory before joining the United States in 1845. It’s the stuff of legends that the “Lone Star State” could end the ties with the U.S. if its constituents want it that way.

Texas Governor Rick Perry, who’s been highly critical of President Obama’s stimulus package, raised the possibility that his state may one day secede from the union.

“We’ve got a great union. There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people — who knows what might come out of that,” Perry told reporters last week.

The governor isn’t the only one suggesting secession is not out of the realm. Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), a former presidential candidate, spoke with Kiran Chetry on CNN’s American Morning Tuesday.

Kiran Chetry: How serious is this secession talk?

Ron Paul: I don’t think it’s very serious. I don’t think anybody called for secession, and I don’t think the governor called for it. But he brings up an important issue. The biggest surprise to me was the outrage expressed over an individual who thinks along these lines, because I heard people say, well, this is treasonous and this was un-American. But don’t they remember how we came in to our being? We used secession, we seceded from England. So it’s a very good principle. It’s a principle of a free society. It’s a shame we don’t have it anymore. I argue that if you had the principle of secession, our federal government wouldn’t be as intrusive into state affairs and to me that would be very good.

We as a nation have endorsed secession all along. Think of all of the secession of the countries and the republics from the Soviet system. We were delighted. We love it. And yet we get hysterical over this just because people want to debate and defend the principle of secession, that doesn’t mean they’re calling for secession. I think it’s that restraining element of secession that would keep the federal government from doing so much. In our early history, they accepted the principles of secession all along.

Chetry: You said it’s very American to talk about secession. It’s how we came into being. 13 colonies seceeded from the British. Are you likening the current situation to life under King George?

Paul: I think a lot of people are thinking that way. And I think that’s what’s important. People are angry. If we don’t sense that, we don’t know what’s actually going on there. People are angry. I’m anticipating it will get a lot worse. When the dollar collapses and the federal government can’t fulfill any of its promises, what if they send you dollars and they don’t work. People aren’t going to have a violent secession; they’re just going to ignore the federal government because they will be inept. We’ll be bringing our troops home and our empire will end. That’s a different story. I think it’s something we should talk about but we should institutionalize this principle. New England wanted to secede. No one challenged New England that it was unconstitutional in our early history.

Chetry: I want to move on to the bank bailouts. This is a source of a lot of contention. You’ve been opposed to them. Lately there have been some signs that perhaps it’s working. Bank of America is turning a profit. Wells Fargo now saying they’re able to pay back the federal government and return some of that bailout money. In the end, could this have turned out to be the right move?

Paul: If a gangster steals money and he’s successful, you don’t celebrate. Yeah they might be. This is just going to make the people angrier. They ripped us off, took all of this money, and now they’re making bundles? It’s just an unfair system to penalize average people, inflate the currency and bring on another crisis and undermine the whole system.

So I would say a bank’s success here and there is not necessarily something to celebrate. It’s still pretty early. I don’t think we’re out of the woods yet to celebrate banks’ successes. What we have to realize is a lot of people stashed away a lot of money and took care of their bonuses and what not. You’re not going to erase the anger that’s come from that just because the bank made a profit. Like I say, it might make things worse.

Yeah, I bet this is all just trolling. Texas isn't leaving the union. But how crazy would that be; a state with a gold standard again?!

15 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On April 21, 2009 at 1:54 PM, OleDrippy (< 20) wrote:

How does somebody succeed from the union? I can see a successful secession, but...

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#2) On April 21, 2009 at 2:10 PM, devoish (71.96) wrote:

This is just a manuever designed to benefit border fence building companys.

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#3) On April 21, 2009 at 2:25 PM, UrbanJackBag (< 20) wrote:

If you don't think there will be another American Revolution or people of this country thinking along those lines, you are crazy.

 Ron Paul is right on with his comments.  It is going to take drastic action to reign in Washington.

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#4) On April 21, 2009 at 2:26 PM, blake303 (28.60) wrote:

I didn't realize King George was elected

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#5) On April 21, 2009 at 2:28 PM, motleyanimal (38.30) wrote:

Texas seceeded from the Union once before along with some other states.

Hey Rick, How did that work out?

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#6) On April 21, 2009 at 2:50 PM, ClandPhoenix (79.54) wrote:

Texas can't or rather won't be allowed to seceed. As motleyanimal noted there is precedent for this and seceeding is not an option. We as a Union should let Texas go though IMO.

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#7) On April 21, 2009 at 2:57 PM, HansHauge (42.40) wrote:

I heard only two things come from texas =D

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#8) On April 21, 2009 at 3:21 PM, beatnik11 (< 20) wrote:

Although Ron Paul is right that many counties that we have both supported and opposed have came about through secession, including ourselves, that doesnt mean that our government would somehow not have a right to defend itself if a war broke out caused by the seceeding nation.  If you want to try and suceed peacefully through protest and referendum becoming so much of a pain that the government has to let go, then it would not be right to march the army.  However if it starts like the last time a bunch of people decided to try and leave our nation, well, I dont think there is any other way for the government not to see taking over a fort as treason.  Just like last time, Texas wont have a chance even if it has its southern buddies again

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#9) On April 21, 2009 at 4:41 PM, catoismymotor (< 20) wrote:

This might shed some light on the matter;


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#10) On April 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, nottheSEC (80.07) wrote:

Good topic.In my book in an advised war there are no fatalities. When they secede we just look they other way, go to the movies and hope they take Staten Island with them....J

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#11) On April 21, 2009 at 5:07 PM, individual57 (< 20) wrote:

Let them go.  G. W. Bush is there and he's the one that put this country in the mess it is in. But it appears that these upset texans forgot this.

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#12) On April 21, 2009 at 6:08 PM, rofgile (99.54) wrote:

I remember when people who complained about the Iraq war were called "traitors" and asked to be more patriotic.  Now, when republicans are talking about revolts and seceding from the US, I have to ask who is really a traitor?

Seriously.  These are people who are talking about breaking up the government or breaking away states?  I'm not taking it too seriously, but someone really needs to give them a reality check.

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#13) On April 21, 2009 at 6:43 PM, blake303 (28.60) wrote:

Let them go. They will reconsider as soon as hurricane season hits. Then we'll see who is "socialist".

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#14) On March 25, 2010 at 10:58 AM, les50060 (< 20) wrote:

First off, many people are misspelling the word secede. If these people can't spell, then maybe they should get out of the United States because we have enough dummies already!!

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#15) On March 25, 2010 at 11:00 AM, les50060 (< 20) wrote:

First off, many people are misspelling the word secede. If these people can't spell, then maybe they should get out of the United States because we have enough dummies already!!

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