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February 06, 2009 – Comments (7) | RELATED TICKERS: NCX , OSK , RCL

A few months ago I sold my businesses in some part due to the opportunity that the crashing stock market represented.  Since mid-december I've been paying attention to the markets myself and making some selections.  My tendency is to not pretend to be prescient and know what growth stock will be the next CSCO, but to play the basic odds, namely:

-historically stocks with lower valuations have offered higher returns.  I look at p/b, p/cf, p/e, forward p/e.  This is no great secret and various books have documented this over various periods of time.  Counting bankruptcies and all, low valuations outperform.  CAPS definitely has a value-oriented eye, which is alot of why I like to browse it. 

-coming out of bear markets, stocks that fell more tend to rebound more, and smaller cap stocks tend to outperform large (>10B) stocks.  Those from various motley fool articles and other places.

-bankruptcy is bad. Eliminate the bankruptcies from the "lowest p/e" category and you'd presumably have considerably market-beating returns

Todays bear market features concern over the availability of credit, over the ability and willingness of banks to loan pepole and businesses money.  And it features a recession, which gives rise to concerns that companies earnings will be severely depressed or absent.  And those two things combine to create a situation where companies carrying debt, particularily companies carrying debt in cyclic industries, have been pummeled to extremely, extremely low prices.  Many companies that made an aquisition in recent history are priced in the sand, as are companies that This creates a situation where many stocks are priced so that only three realistic options exist for the share price:  they become multi-baggers (2, 3, 5, 10x your money), they go bankrupt, or someone buys them.

Todays market has myriad "cheap" stocks and nearly limitless value plays.  Commodity-related stocks are low, luxury stocks are low (casinos, cruises), energy stocks are low (including recent high fliers like solar), automotiv stocks are crushed, industrial equipment is crushed, banks are crushed, REITs are crushed and on and on.  And among the crushed stock prices are tickers carrying low debt with little realistic chance of short-term insolvency.  I like those stocks, and buy examples of them with real money every day, but I think that in 5 years when we look back at this period we'll find that many of the biggest returns were had in stocks that HAVE debt now, because the combination of debt+banking system problems has resulted in unbelievably low prices for many such companies.  In a matter of months leverage has gone from being considered a tool businesses use to grow to being considered a death sentence by wall street.    Some examples that I am interested in include: 

-OSK.  Oshkosh, heavy truck maker extraordinaire.  OSK might have overpaid for JLG, and its carrying $2.7 billion of debt largely related to that aquisition and has an uninspired debt/equity ratio of 2.  Heavy equipment isn't have the best time of it lately, adding to OSKs troubles.  And to top it all off they recently said they expected to be in violation of a loan covenant by the second quarter of 2009.  They are beholden to US Bancorp.  So things are bad for the Wisconsin truck maker.  However, mistakes aside, OSK is a great company.  4 stars in caps, 1st in many of its business areas, 2nd in others.   Will USB force OSK into bankruptcy, would that help USB?  Or will USB work with them, preserve their customer, preserve their profit, and probably raise some rates and take some penalty fees and make some money on it themselves? 

-MTW.  Similar situation in most ways.  Did MTW overpay for Enodis?  In my opinion they did, and worse Wall STreet doesn't view that transaction very favorably.  Are cranes off the peak of their cycle?  By all accounts they are.  And so MTW faces some challenges.  But this is not a bad company.  Its a leader in most of its business areas with a good track record of growing and making money, and whats out of cycle now will one day come back in.  If MTW can simply survive until its cranes and food service equipment get hot again the stock will mutiply by several times from its current levels.  And as with OSK above, I just don't see how anyone benefits (banks, shareholders, companies) from forcing these companies into chapter 11, and I think some second chances will be given.  GGP got an extension and some second chances, and they are REALLY in a tough spot.

-ASH.  Ashland has a long track record of being a good company.  They made a Fool articles list of companies that treat shareholders the best, they have a plan for the future, and purchasing Hercules worked towards that.  If a company has been well managed in the past, is it that big of a leap of faith to think that its well managed today, and that the purchase might ultimately benefit it?  Beyond that, unlike OSK and MTW above, ASH retains a positive tangible book value (meaning goodwill resulting from the purchase doesn't completely dominate the balance sheet).

These are just 3, and perhaps not even the most interesting of the 3.  Nova Chemical is a good company with a fundamental advantage in a commodity market that historically has proven relatively recession proof - polyethylene.  Their 4th quarter loss was due to the radical drop in the value of inventories, their inventories of chemicals and product dropped sharply in value as oil and other commodity prices free-fell last fall.  Their outlook for the current quarter and 2009 is positive, while Wall Streets is decidedly negative.  And they have some challenges and those challenges are pretty short-term (the need to raise $100m by February 29 in order to keep access to their credit facilities).  But I bought shares recently under $1.10, or about 30 times lower than the average price in recent years.  NCXs debt relates to expansion rather than aquisition, but its the same situation:  debt + cyclic = crushed stock.  It either goes to zero or it goes up 10 times eventually.  Do you believe a company with a fundamental advantage (read about the "Alberta Advantage" will be forced into bankruptcy, or do you think that ultimately lenders will work with it or someone will step in?

Teck Cominco has aquisition related debt and is alot of the same story.  Good company, overpaid for Fording, stock priced for oblivion.  But the overall macro-economic long term picture still favors commodities.  India, Russia, Brazil, and China will still eventually one day become consumer nations, and that will require alot of coal, copper, zinc, iron, you name it.  If TCK can survive and refinance it will live to see a new high somewhere down the road.  Again, its several times your money or zero. 

XL Capital (XL), Royal Carribean (RCL), Limited Brands (LTD), Office Depot (ODP) are all other companies priced so that they will either become multi-baggers or they will go to zero.  Each has some distinct rays of hope in its overall picture.  In fact, all of these companies are expected to make money in 2009.  Office Depot is profitable, carries low debt, has a plan to cut out some unprofitable stores, is expected to make money in 2009 and bankruptcy just doesn't seem plausible.  But its priced several times below its 15 year low.  Is ODP going away?  If not it will rebound 10 times.  CHK, SD, ACI, MTL, NOV the list is nearly endless. 

Never mind the banks.  BAC, IRE, even WFC and USB (two fairly stable banks) are down several times.  I've largely avoided banks because I don't really understand them.  The fact that they are so radically out of favor probably implies that they are good buys however.

If you own 10 stocks and 5 go 5 times the money, and 5 go bankrupt, you wind up with 2.5 times your money.  Not a bad return, even if it takes 5 years. 

These aren't the only stocks in this position, and I have made these types of stocks a significant portion of my portfolio.  It could be said that this amounts to gambling, but in my view its simply contrarian thinking.  In all of history, the sky has never fallen and the worst case scenario has never come to pass.  And we've been through a similar real estate + banks problem before if you recall, when I was a child in the 80's and 90's.  The sky has never fallen before, folks, and in my opinion a well diversified (diversified because, of course, any one of these companies could drop) portfolio of these type of stocks is destined to shine. 

For a disclaimer I own alot of these tickers with real money.

7 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On February 06, 2009 at 11:52 AM, EggplantWizard (99.67) wrote:

Welcome to my favorites. My analysis is essentially the same -- I'm just going more diversified than normal and playing the bankruptcy risks.

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#2) On February 06, 2009 at 12:33 PM, RonChapmanJr (98.43) wrote:

good stuff.

thanks for the ideas.

ron

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#3) On February 06, 2009 at 12:52 PM, oversea (< 20) wrote:

I did the same boom or burst reasoning. I mean this could be the real turning point in my life. Next year I'll retire and I prefer to try than to spend the rest of my life worrying about my nestegg getting smaller by the day. After all even if I'll become penniless I've my own home and pension. So I can survive, but I'll not spend the rest of my life complaining that I could have become rich. I couldn't stand that.

I bought some mining stocks (NGD, RIO, POT, AUY, TIE, FCX, GMO), some transport (NM, UNP) some  food and drinks (KFT, PEP, DEO) something healthier (JNJ, FSLR, FSYS), something naughty (MO) and a few AAPL, WMT, BRK-B, MON, LH, KMR. Now I sit here hoping for the best, anyhow I'm pleased because I did all what I could do to improve my life, so my mind is in peace.  

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#4) On February 06, 2009 at 5:15 PM, checklist34 (99.79) wrote:

Thanks for the comments and the list of tickers, oversea.  My portfolio today is about 1/3 in the hands of a value-oriented firm with a great track record of beating the heck out of the S&P.  They've bought companies falling into the really low risk category.  Growth, low debt, but with share prices cut way down.  They bought 50 stocks with the money and in 2 months they are about 10% ahead of the S&P.

My boom-or-bust portfolio took a big beating last week when OSK, MTW, ASH, and alot of my other holdings got pounded down pretty heavily.  So I bought more of them, lowered my average cost.  But I'm slightly down on that part (about 25%) of my portfolio.  I'm up on the no-debt, beaten-down value part and I've got about 25-30% left to put in. 

When this is all over I'll be all in to equities, just playing the odds.  Its a nerve-wracking experience where my personal side, heart, guts whatever you wish to call it, winds up at odds with my intellectual side which reminds me that I'm just playing the odds.  And the odds favor me very, very well. 

Whatever I pick with the last 1/3 of my portfolio, I just strongly suspect that the boom-or-bust part will ultimately prove the most profitable.  If either of XL or NCX returns to form, several stocks in that portfolio will be able to go to zero without keeping the overall returns from being superlative.  If 1/2 of the stocks in that portfolio survive, thats awesome.  If 3/4 of them do, the returns will be silly good.  If 90% or all of them make it, well, :) :) :)

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#5) On February 08, 2009 at 6:16 AM, oversea (< 20) wrote:

I see. In my opinion industrial shares such as OSK and MTW are quite good, but they will take longer to recover.They'll do it in due time, but later on. That's why my portfolio is unbalanced in favour of mining and transport, I believe they'll be among the first to recover. I picked also shares which gave me some dividends, you know it's nice to have some extra money. I have also some European industrial shares, that I was ill adviced and stupid enough to buy before the crisis. There I have lost a lot of money and I'm afraid they'll never reach the old value. I must think what to do with them. Fortunately I've still some old high interest bonds which, alas, will expire this year and I don't know yet how to invest that money. On the one hand if I'll buy some bonds, their interest rates are so low now that, it would be worthwhile keeping my money in an old sock. We should bear in mind that after this crisis there'll be quite probably an inflationary period, then bonds with a 3% interest rate at their best will be worth second hand toilet paper so to say. On the other hand investing all my money in shares is a too dangerous think to do. I cannot make up my mind.

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#6) On February 08, 2009 at 6:12 PM, EggplantWizard (99.67) wrote:

If you expect inflation, it seems hard to go wrong with mining equities. If you want something more secure and still inflation resilliant, perhaps investment grade convertable corporate debt from miners.

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#7) On February 18, 2009 at 12:57 AM, checklist34 (99.79) wrote:

hey oversea, consider taking a tax loss on the european shares.  I haven't held back from selling at a loss because I have plenty of income to not pay taxes on if I lose money on the market.  Its a 40% rebate on market losses.  Which isn't nothing.  So far I'm ahead on realized gains/losses from sales of stock. 

MTW, TEX, OSK, maybe even the big guys like CAT and DE, will be slow to recover.  OSK less so than MTW which has the cyclic problems, the debt problems, and the diworsification problem.  I own too much MTW and want to pare my holdings.

The chemical companies - NCX (my biggest holding, lordie lets hope they get financing), DOW, ASH, HUN will recover with the economy... and then regain their previous highs probably only in the next bull market.  But WOW are they cheap.

And I agree about mining stocks I love them.  Right now I'm split up among about 60 stocks spanning mostly equipment, chemicals (lots of chemicals), mining and commodities, energy, and a few select china and automotive picks.

Today was a bloody day for Checklist.  I went from down about 1% to down 9% in one greusome wall street beating.  :((

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