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The Mother Of All Ponzis....When EVERYTHING is a Derivitive



June 04, 2010 – Comments (4)

Imagine almost everything the world holds value in is a derivitive......and the marker of value is essentially an illusion.

Madoff's clients thought they were rich based on the statements they received.....but behind the statements was air.....

Money and Gold are a derivitive of human productivity....but there is very little productivity  to back up money and gold absent credit and debt......and without human productivity, money and gold are worthless

Credit and Debt are the primary assets of Pension Funds, Retirement Accounts, and Money Market Accounts....but more and more debt is defaulting everyday as credit is cut off...

Shares of Stock and Corporate Bonds are a derivitive of corporate productivity.....but most corporate productivity is simply a derivitive of credit directly or indirectly.....

Real Estate values are a function of the owners ability to service the expenses.....but each day as credit is cut off.....fewer and fewer can afford to service the debt and maintain the property

When we made human production a derivitive of credit and debt....instead of the other way knew human production would come to a grinding halt once the bankers cut off credit..........

Without much human production......pretty much everything we own is or soon will be we continue to proceed into the Digital Age...where what was production will not be......

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City of Brunswick FL - 14

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Community Unit District 300 Chicago - 33

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WTTW-Channel 11 TV Station - 25 to 30

Admob Inc- 12

University of Nevada - Possible Job Cuts, or other cuts 

City of Sandusky Ohio - 5

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The Jeffco Public Schools - 136

Commercial Data Systems - 20

Stanley Black & Decker - 63 At South Jackson Plant

Weymouth Schools MA - 70 

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Compton Unified School District CA - 76

Mason County Forest Products Shelton Mill - 130

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4 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On June 04, 2010 at 7:37 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


Keep watching the ticker.....soon you will know what it is like to learn that we are all Madoff's clients.

When corporate production is a function of debt....and credit is being cut off.....pretty soon corporations will not produce much.....

And without production....basically everything is worthless.

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#2) On June 04, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Donnernv (< 20) wrote:


You use "derivitive" a lot.  Fair enough.  But since it is often central to your argument, it would serve you well to know it's spelled DERIVATIVE.  :0)

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#3) On June 05, 2010 at 12:18 AM, biotechmgr (< 20) wrote:

There is a fallacy in your argument. A medium of exchange is necessary. Demand will exist for basic items necessary for life.

And don't say barter is the answer. Barter will return as a supplement (or circumnavigation) to the "system". But people need something to trade to get what they need - food, shelter, tools, clothing, medicine... and guns/ammo. To have goods they need to buy them or make them. Either way, there is value in them. Stores will still have them, and require payment.

Deflation will occur but things will not be worthless. Worth little in monetary terms, but not worthless.

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#4) On June 05, 2010 at 12:48 AM, oshiri (< 20) wrote:

     "And don't say barter is the answer."

Comrade BioTM . . . 

     I can see you didn't live thru the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, but you will live thru the Digital Revolution. If you were more than a twinkle in your daddy's eye in 1968, the only "medium of exchange" in China was barter. Want a hair cut, give a comrade a chicken.

     What will you sheep exchange in the Digital Age, as y'all been fleeced already.

     Keep your heads down, as that roughness between your hind quarters is only farmer Obama focusing like a laser beam on J_O_B_S. 


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