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The New American Civil War



May 31, 2010 – Comments (15)

1/2 of the nation is  DEPENDENT directly or indirectly on a government check to survive.....

Our government is dependent on the production of the OTHER HALF of the nation to fund expenses

The OTHER HALF is dependent on the DEPENDENT half's spending to generate income.

If the DEPENDENT half don't spend, the OTHER HALF doesn't generate much of an income....if the OTHER HALF don't generate much of an income, the government doesn't raise the necessary revenues to fund expenses.

if the bankers don't lend....nobody has anything........and since we just bailed out the bankers.....can anyone guess who wins in the end?

Silly have just been suckered into project mayhem.......and you can't even tell because you are too distracted by the ticker....which could be shut off anyday.

Welcome to the Digital will be exciting.


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#1) On May 31, 2010 at 1:56 AM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

Oh it is an exciting time. It will just get better and better. Even the left is going after the government. Oh this is so day j view. Wait till all the monuments come out on the gov. land grab. Hummmmm do I see Native American Indians being the theme?

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#2) On May 31, 2010 at 9:15 AM, ralphmachio (< 20) wrote:

Oh yeah Alstry, the ticker will be shut off real soon. You got some source for this crap? Didn't think so. Just shootin from the hip, or do you have some agenda? 


We have a way to go before that is even a remote possibility, and I know why you would be warning us about it now. Alstry has always been there to try and scare you out of opportunities to profit. He spins the whole doom and gloom thing in the wrong direction, and is so frequently wrong in his predictions, any sane man would have realized he served no purpose but to take away profits, but that is Alstry's intention. If you whined about doom for the last two years and didn't make money in the last 6 weeks, you are a sucker.

You warned of impending doom during the entire rally, and now that the market is finally starting to come unglued, you are trying to scare the bears out of the opportunity to profit?


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#3) On May 31, 2010 at 9:27 AM, catoismymotor (< 20) wrote:

I'm loading up on hardtack and Minie Balls.

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#4) On May 31, 2010 at 9:29 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Alstry forecasted the housing crash.....

Alstry forecasted the banking crash....

Alstry forecasted the government crash.....

Alstry forecasted a rise in natural and man made disasters.....

Alstry warned about the market at 14,000 when he started blogging........

Alstry warned about social unrest spreading around the world......

Yes Alstry was so wrong.......and it hasn't even really started....

And now Alstrymous guides you into the Digital will be exciting....

Just curious which side of the fence you are....that which needs the production from the OTHER HALF....or that on the DEPENDENT side....

Oh my are so fluffy......

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#5) On May 31, 2010 at 9:36 AM, watchmesoar (74.91) wrote:

alstry, you know it, have you read much on debt deflation and irving fisher's study of it. It has much relevance to what is going to eventually happen

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#6) On May 31, 2010 at 10:04 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

If you want to know the truth...if we don't reign in government spending soon......really really soon...I am not sure there is a practical way to avoid WW3.

I am not sure the politicians have another way out....and if we do go that route.....inflation or deflation is a flip of the coin.....both political solutions to a massive debt problem.

It is far easier to fight an external enemy than engage in conflict with your own citizens......

right now you have half of our nation on one side, and a shrinking half on the other....with government in between as tensions keep rising

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#7) On May 31, 2010 at 10:15 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


Honda Motor Co. said Monday that production at its auto factories in southern China would not resume until at least Thursday because of an ongoing strike at a crucial parts plant.

British Airways cabin crew on 14th day of strike

Under economic theory....war creates a very large group of productive people.....crazy but true....especially during a time when more and more are becoming non productive.....and simply living off the work of others

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#8) On May 31, 2010 at 10:36 AM, ralphmachio (< 20) wrote:

In the last 15 months C went from .98 to 5.00.

BAC went from around 2.50 to 20.

BEXP went from 1.75 to 20.

And so on and so on. You don't think that multiplying your money might just help in the tiniest increment during the 'digital age'?  No? And never any actual suggestions? 

What about the bear market SO FAR? Some of us have doubled our accounts SO FAR. It has just begun!

Maybe we should just sit around and wait for the next dire warning from Alstry?

And let us not forget, at the best possible time to actually short the market, Alstry was going through a depression, and was promising us he was leaving, and NOT telling us to short the market, or even suggesting doom or gloom! 

Alstry, you are warning of the same events that have been previously mentioned by every conspiracy author in the library!  

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#9) On May 31, 2010 at 10:54 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Maybe we should just sit around and wait for the next dire warning from Alstry?

Actually just the opposite......we need to start producing beyond government subsidies.  If we don't produce....our money will be matter how much you have....

Money is simply the reflection of production....and if you have lots of money and very little production....the money is worthless...if there is a little money and lots of production....the money is worth a lot.

That is simply the law of money......

When we started to make money and production the derivitive of debt......and not the other way around, you knew we were on a very dangerous path.  When we bailed out the bankers and let the citizens maintain the burden of the debt....the game was over.

As far as the "bear market"...that should be the least of your concerns.  A couple weeks ago....stocks that were trading at $40 were trading at essentially zero a few minutes later.......and you were being told some fat finger caused it?

My suggestion is you better damn well start producing something....actually we better as a nation....or very soon we will all be producing the biggest war the  world has ever seen.

So keep watching the ticker and counting how many dollars you have....if we don't start producing, it's all worthless.

Why do you think I am starting a new company to sell goods around the world?


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#10) On May 31, 2010 at 11:08 AM, tomlongrpv (64.22) wrote:

Well if you predicted something and it came true--it must mean you are a genius and all your future predictions will come true as well.  Actually--get this--I predict you will be wrong someday! 

Anyway, interesting comments but perhaps you haven't figured out that most of us with taxable incomes of more than $200,000 voted for Obama and most of the "teabaggers" are on Medicare and Social Security.  The real "war" seems to be betwen those who essentially want to eviscerate government and those who believe it can be used for positive purposes.  It is the same battle it has always been and the pendulum just swings back and forth.  Right now the wingnuts are in the ascendancy with the media on their side and with refrains like "keep the government out of my Medicare!"  Anway--as I tell such wingnuts--don't wait until you take control--just write me a check right now and disenroll from Medicare and Social Security (thereis no requirement you be on them).  That way you can start the implementation of your beliefs of putting money back in the hands of the wealthy.

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#11) On May 31, 2010 at 11:27 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


I am wrong often......

For you to make this issue political is actually comical and clearly demonstrates your lack of understanding of the issue.

There is simply not enough production to support America and the current American system.  Unless we start to produce more....the only means of pruduction we will have left is fighting....

production has no party and fighting is not political.

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#12) On May 31, 2010 at 1:13 PM, tomlongrpv (64.22) wrote:

You made it political. You make the same old tired argument that it destroys an economy to support those who are weaker.  The higher standards of living and longer life expectancies in Northern and Western Europe prove you wrong.  Your argument is that the right model is laissez faire capitalism like that which we see in the third world economies that are growing quickly.  But that growth does not benefit the majority of the populations that much.  The European model--while less attractive to those wanting a fast buck--is still best for most people in the long run. 

In any event is it correct to assume that only "production" (viz. manufacturing I take it) has value?

Finally--what's your constructive alternative suggestion?  It is easy to criticize things (like the bailout of banks).  I'ts harder to actually suggest a constructive alternative.

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#13) On May 31, 2010 at 2:44 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

No I didn't...if you took the time to read thoughfully.

The argument I made is as follows:

Our economy has morphed into one where it is the spending of the "weaker"(non productive class)  that is driving the revenues of the productive class....

At some point the productive class rebels because the non productive class requries every once of production to sustain their lifestyle.....

If you don't restructure before the productive class is stripped of everything they have.......revolution or war is the mathematically certain outcome.

Why do you think I have been advocating restructuing since I started this point an internal revolution or WW3 is the direct path we are heading while the sheep watch the ticker.

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#14) On May 31, 2010 at 3:02 PM, JeanDavid (80.25) wrote:

"We must bear in mind, then, that there is nothing more difficult and dangerous, or more doubtful of success, than an attempt to introduce a new order of things in any state. For the innovator has for enemies all those who derived advantages from the old order of things, whilst those who expect to be benefited by the new institutions will be but lukewarm defenders. This indifference arises in part from fear of their adversaries who were favoured by the existing laws, and partly from the incredulity of men who have no faith in anything new that is not the result of well-established experience. Hence it is that, whenever the opponents of the new order of things have the opportunity to attack it, they will do it with the zeal of partisans, whilst the others defend it but feebly, so that it is dangerous to rely upon the latter.'' Niccolo Machiavelli

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#15) On May 31, 2010 at 4:52 PM, davejh23 (< 20) wrote:

"The higher standards of living and longer life expectancies in Northern and Western Europe prove you wrong."

Have you lived in Europe?  Every country in western Europe is just as bankrupt as the US.  The unemployment rate in Spain is horrendous, especially for younger workers.  Here in the US, California has nearly a third of all the country's welfare recipients...and their financial situation is dire...even though they also have a disproportionate number of wealthy liberals.  If you want to follow a failed European model, move to Europe.

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