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The Presidential Budgets/Economic Projections

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August 17, 2012 – Comments (5)

All you Republicans clamoring Ryan's budget will save us haven't done the math. Like Obama's budget, Ryan's budget assumes 3-4% growth. Even *if* they get this, which they won't, they still add $3-4T to the debt in their first term.

And just like Obama's budget plan, Ryan's plan has deficit projections based on this rosey, mythical 3-4% growth. Guess what happens to the deficits and therefore the debt when they fall short, like Obama?  And we're not talking falling a little short. Obama has avg'd somewhere between 1.5-1.7% growth.  That's falling short +100%.

 

The deficits/debt added will still explode requiring more printing, more taxes, more fees, more tolls, more fines. I haven't been wrong on much with Obama's budgets. I won't be wrong on Romney/Ryan's either.

 


Now that Obama has increased the debt burden on the private economy an additional 67% in 4 years, on top of the 67% Bush added in his 8 years (for a total of +130% debt growth in 12 years), I foresee growth slowing even further. Romney and Ryan will be lucky to get half of the 3-4% growth they are projecting, if not inheriting negative growth (recession) if elected.

And if we actually do approach recession, I see more easing/printing/twisting or whatever the hell they want to call it now. It's a fancy word for printing lots of money, handing it out to their friends, and calling it a day. Whether its Obama or Romney, the printed money hand outs won't change, but the people they hand it too will.

The more we print, the weaker the dollar becomes, the higher the prices we pay. Inflation is a tax, which hurts the lower income, fixed income, disabled, middle class, and poor the most...while helping the rich the most. You know, that top percentage everyone talks about? The income gap continues to widen as we continue down this path. Get it yet?

 

5 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On August 17, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Melaschasm (89.97) wrote:

While your criticisms are correct regarding the Romney/Ryan budget, it is still much lower spending and debt than Obama's budget.

Personally I am not a fan of either party.  If cutting spending is your thing, you can either vote republican and hope for the best or go third party, and try to make a statement.

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#2) On August 17, 2012 at 8:29 AM, jason2713 (< 20) wrote:

It's not cutting spending.  It's cutting baseline annual increases and reforming entitlements, spending never goes down in their budgets.

Reforming entitlements is a fancy word for cutting benefits.  Meanwhile, they increase military spending.  If they were really serious, there would be baseline cuts across the board. 

This is nothing more than cutting benefits to the people, while increasing benefits to the war machine.  It's not not better for our future, it's a "little less" bad than Obama, and I mean SLIGHT.  

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#3) On August 19, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Silver182 (24.62) wrote:

World lesson 101......What do you mean "It's not better for our future" what the FU*K are you talking about...our war machine is our / your future...just like when you were in grade school power rules!! The biggest & toughest kid always had the biggest marble bag..event when he couldn't shoot marbles worth a Sh*t. Yep he couldn't shoot but he could take you around the corner beat you up, and take your marbles. Works the same way in the Real World..the guy with the biggest GUN and is willing to use it WINS. Winning at the world scale means we get to "Print" all the money we want..cause at the end of the day we are the only one with the power to back our currency up. As long as we are the smartest and most powerful..i.e. "our war machine" the world has no choice, but to desire and use the dollar. Ever wonder why we have printed all the dollar bills we want (been printing them for many years) and at the same time not create inflation?....It's because we have the power to back up our dollar..when virtually no other nation in the world has that power ."Money equates to work".... with money I can cause you to do anything.... Now let us get back to doing what we need to do....get rid of this clown Obama and get back to running the world

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#4) On August 22, 2012 at 7:12 AM, jason2713 (< 20) wrote:

silver - 

Interesting point of view that took down so many other nations throughout history.  The biggest flaw to your thinking is that other nations *have* to use our dollar because we have the biggest stick.  Sure we have the biggest stick, but it comes at a heafty price.  Without the ability to finance our war machine, we crumble.  It's coming, trust me.    

 

"Ever wonder why we have printed all the dollar bills we want (been printing them for many years) and at the same time not create inflation?"


We've been exporting our inflation, but its been tolerated because nations like China have grown rapidly in its face. Now growth is lower than inflation, it's now become a burden.  If you think for a second they are going to allow this to continue forever, you're sadly mistaken.  They've already started slowing down exports and thus the purchase of our (worthless) debt.  The federal reserve has had to kick the printing in high gear accounting for 61% of our t-bill purchases this year.  I suspect that figure will continue to grow as investors and nations alike turn their back on US debt, which backs this all mighty dollar.

Japan, China, Russia, Brazil, and India are already making moves for bilateral trade without dollars.  I'm going to assume this continues.  We are in real trouble.  If you don't see that, you will sadly become a statistic when the misery hits us. 

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#5) On August 22, 2012 at 7:28 AM, jason2713 (< 20) wrote:

To add to this "no inflation" theory, the inflation is being seen in the areas the gov't is most involved in - medicine, education, housing during the housing bubble. 

Medical and educational costs have tripled since 2000.  I wonder in 10 years where those prices will be, think it'll triple again?  I think so.  Reason being..we can't export that inflation to anyone else.

Soon, very soon, we will not be able to export any of our inflation.  I wonder what prices will be when the inflation is trapped in our country for everything we consume.  It should be interesting. 

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