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The Tax Free Tour



March 31, 2013 – Comments (5)

The Tax Free Tour.   In case the video does not embed, here is the link, courtesy of Common dreams and Dutch Public Broadcasting     Best wishes,Steven  

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#1) On April 04, 2013 at 3:47 PM, ChrisGraley (28.48) wrote:

2 minutes into it and I already come to a lie so huge that  I can't believe that even the morons this video was intended for would believe it!

"Apple sells the Ipad for $500 to $600 and buys it from China for $40 to $50." If you actually believe that statement, you are the hopeless idiot that this video is dependent upon. Congrats on your stupidity.  

After the first 2 minutes and that statement, I turned it off, it may have had valid points later, but after seeing the lengths the author was willing to go to, I knew it wouldn't be worth it. 

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#2) On April 04, 2013 at 8:00 PM, devoish (65.42) wrote:

Good for you ChrisGraley, good for you. 

3rd generation price - $575. 

Even if the guy was wrong about Ipad prices you could give the guy a chance past that. Personally I just think you don't want people to learn the truth about corporate tax avoidance and how much it costs them.  I don't know or care why.

 For those of you who are not ChrisGraley, it is a pretty thorough picture of how American corporations cheat on their taxes to reward investors despite flying under the protection of America's Army, Navy and Air Force at your expense, as someone whop does pay taxes, and well worth the hour or I would not have posted it or in my opinion, drawn CG's ire and recommendation you not view it.

Best wishes,


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#3) On April 09, 2013 at 7:06 PM, ChrisGraley (28.48) wrote:

Well Steven, if he wasn't about 500% off on his statement and didn't state it as fact instead of at least saying that it was a guess or an estimate, it might not have turned me off so quickly. He could have simply stated that Apple enjoys huge mark-ups higher than most other businesses in their class because they are supported by liberal morons who have more money than sense and would have been much more correct. The fact that you ignore something like that just proves that the facts are more dubious to you than the agenda.

Now as far as businesses avoiding taxes. Please show me where they cheated. (Yes, I just watched the whole video) They did take advantage of every loophole given to them. Remember that tax avoidance is not tax evasion. You can close the loopholes, but given the tax rate here, the businesses will just leave. Also as far as investors being rewarded, you better hope that is the case if you have a 401k or other retirement fund. You're better off fighting executive pay and the percentage of that profit that doesn't go to investors.

Corporate taxes are simply moronic. If I sell widget to another country, it's an economic plus for this country. But if you tax me for selling it to them, it is less likely to happen. On the other hand if you replaced the corporate tax (and income tax for that matter as well)  with a sales tax, then the people that prosper from a pro-growth economy will pay the tax when they buy the widgets domestically. 

And while we are at it, cut the country's Army, Navy and Air Force to about 1/3rd of what it is now. It will still be the biggest in the world and more than enough for our defense. It will be less equipped to push other countries around though. Then we would also need less of those taxes that you love so much.

Steven you are so willing to overlook a blatant lie. I understand why. You are a hypocrite, and more concerned with your agenda than the truth.  My point is that a 3rd grader knows that the Ipad costs Apple more than $60 to make. If the video starts with a lie, how am I supposed to know when the lies end.

If you really want to be a champion for your own cause though Steven, I will give you some advice. Be willing to criticize your own...

FIrst if you want to target evil corporations....

1) Focus on the banks that got bailed out with taxpayer money for taking risks they knew were foolish. They did it because they knew that the governent would bail them out. For a list look at Obama's top campaign contributors and look at some of his advisors.

2) Look at the AG companies that are literally poisoning us. For a list, look at Obama's top campaign contributors and his advisors.

If you miss the names for your list, let me know and I'll be happy to post them for you.

Next look at human rights violations. Look for human beings that are kept indefinately without due process. I believe a list for these people can be obtained from GITMO. For the current tyrant in charge of this, I would look at the most recent President that won the Nobel Peace Prize before he did anything. Apparently he is a kind and just owner of people.

This rant could go on for so much longer, but I know it's pointless. Please go on to sell your solution to the world's problems being as simple as collecting more taxes.



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#4) On April 14, 2013 at 11:26 PM, devoish (65.42) wrote:

Chris, not so angry aready! You turned me off after your first pargraph and I did not even bother to read the rest.

Best wishes,


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#5) On April 15, 2013 at 4:04 PM, ChrisGraley (28.48) wrote:

About the answer I was expecting Steven. Good luck on your next brain washing expedition.


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