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The Unintended Consequences of BP's Spill



June 17, 2010 – Comments (16) | RELATED TICKERS: WTR , WRLD

I now can't seem to get Kevin Costner out of my Financial and Business news sites and articles!

And, of course:

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#1) On June 17, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Turfscape (< 20) wrote:

Oh, and just to be absolutely clear: I'm being light-hearted. This mess in the Gulf is really wearing me, anything that can keep me from tearing my eyes out is a positive right about now.

FYI - I think Costner's a smart man. Seeing a celebrity investing in something other than a self-named fragrance or cliche' Boulevard nightclub is very refreshing and sets a positive example (in my opinion).

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#2) On June 17, 2010 at 7:25 PM, XMFCrocoStimpy (97.45) wrote:

Even catoismymotor is willing to forgive Costner for The Postman if this works....

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#3) On June 17, 2010 at 7:28 PM, XMFCrocoStimpy (97.45) wrote:

And I do agree, Turf, that it is very refreshing to see a celebrity making a long term and substantial personal investment in something as potentially important as this type of device.

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#4) On June 17, 2010 at 9:04 PM, alberta911 (< 20) wrote:

The Intended Consequences of the Jones Act is helping the cap and tax agenda.

Until Obama waives the Jones Act ...only US citizens like Costner will have solutions

the U.S. government has not accepted any offers of assistance from foreign nations, although BP has accepted some help from Norway and Mexico, he said.

The U.S. Coast Guard has received offers to assist in various ways from the following nations:

United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom

The European Union also offered to help by coordinating the European response, should the State Department begin accepting any offers of foreign assistance.

They have all been turned away under the Jones Act because clean up is not their priority



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#5) On June 17, 2010 at 10:42 PM, awallejr (57.04) wrote:

A germane link:

Projections of "only" 30,000 barrels a day spilling seems alot better than talk of 50,000-100,000 barrels.  I swear every day it seems to go up 10,000.

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#6) On June 17, 2010 at 11:05 PM, alberta911 (< 20) wrote:

The day they brought out the diamond cutter......the flow rate was no longer contained

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#7) On June 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM, awallejr (57.04) wrote:

Yet that isn't what Thad Allen is saying.  If it was BP, yeah, disregard their BS.  But it is coming from the us (namely the Coast Guard).  Now if you think Thad Allen will spin because he might have a political agenda, well I can't disprove that.  I, however, will, absent proof to the contrary, accept the fact that he is trying to be truthful.

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#8) On June 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, alberta911 (< 20) wrote:

Ask Thad Allen who sunk the rig...he will tell you the Coast Guards

Thad Allen is realizing very quickly that the agenda here is not like when he was in charge of Katrina..

He already called in Boom from Canada thru a loophole...

Read globally and you will find everyone knows Allen has no agenda but is stuck with his hands tied...wishing he retired...worry about his reputation that they will smear and he will write a book about.

I expect the international community will out the US at the G20 to the media about Obama's failure to waive the Jones Act and get the Gulf cleaned up

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#9) On June 17, 2010 at 11:54 PM, awallejr (57.04) wrote:

Yet he is saying the Jone's Act is not an issue.  That the things that would require a "waiver" are NOT needed.  We need skimmers, and the Jones Act does not apply.  Read the link in #5. Is he being dishonest? None of us are qualified to say.

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#10) On June 18, 2010 at 12:16 AM, jesusfreakinco (28.32) wrote:

Thad Allen is just covering Obama's butt regarding the Jones Act.  He should have DEMANDED BP pay for help from other countries just like he DEMANDED the $20 billion clean up fund (which I support).  At this point, Obama can't waive Jones Act and take action because he'd be admitting implicity he had the ability to do this and that is should have been done 4 - 6 weeks ago.

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#11) On June 18, 2010 at 12:28 AM, jesusfreakinco (28.32) wrote:

"Interesting to note in this report is Sagalevich stating that he and the other Russian scientists were required by the United States to sign documents forbidding them to report their findings to either the American public or media, and which they had to do in order to legally operate in US territorial waters.

However, Sagalevich says that he and the other scientists gave nearly hourly updates to both US government and BP officials about what they were seeing on the sea floor, including the US Senator from their State of Florida Bill Nelson who after one such briefing stated to the MSNBC news service “Andrea we’re looking into something new right now, that there’s reports of oil that’s seeping up from the seabed… which would indicate, if that’s true, that the well casing itself is actually pierced… underneath the seabed. So, you know, the problems could be just enormous with what we’re facing.”"

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#12) On June 18, 2010 at 12:32 AM, awallejr (57.04) wrote:

Re comment #10. I don't think you understand the Jones Act and how it applies to the current situation per Thad Allen.  Please read the llink in #5.. 

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#13) On June 18, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Turfscape (< 20) wrote:

TMFCrocoStimpy wrote:
"Even catoismymotor is willing to forgive Costner for The Postman if this works...."

Ah, cato...always there with the quick with!

Personally, I'm still waiting for someone to do a video spoof of Waterworld, replacing Dennis Hopper with Tony Hayward...

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#14) On June 18, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Turfscape (< 20) wrote:

Turfscape wrote:
"Ah, cato...always there with the quick with!"

And, of course, I meant "quick wit".

(stupid, fat fingers)

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#15) On June 18, 2010 at 11:39 PM, awallejr (57.04) wrote:

Re comment #4.  Read an article today about all those countries offering to help us.  Apparently they will but they want us to pay them for it. 

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#16) On June 19, 2010 at 3:29 PM, alberta911 (< 20) wrote:

Oil is a dirty business...but it is an essential business

Minerals Management Service needs to clean up their agency's corruption so we can get this moratorium lifted.

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar and Attorney General Eric Holder are too busy cleaning up Bruce Babbitt and Robert E. Rubin's 100 Billion theft... 160 boxes shredded Indian-trust documents Cobell lawsuit mess to clean up this oil

Since everyone seems to have a hidden agenda except main street ..protect unions..cap-n-tax…smear the other team call in the international community to protect you from your snake oil politicians.

The President does not need to waive the Jones Act…it waives itself

46 USC 55113 - Use of foreign documented oil spill response vessels

Notwithstanding any other provision of law, an oil spill response vessel documented under the laws of a foreign country may operate in waters of the United States on an emergency and temporary basis, for the purpose of recovering, transporting, and unloading in a United States port oil discharged as a result of an oil spill in or near those waters, if

(1) an adequate number and type of oil spill response vessels documented under the laws of the United States cannot be engaged to recover oil from an oil spill in or near those waters in a timely manner, as determined by the Federal On-Scene Coordinator for a discharge or threat of a discharge of oil; and

(2) the foreign country has by its laws accorded to vessels of the United States the same privileges accorded to vessels of the foreign country under this section.


President Obama authorized 17000 National Guard troops to “help” deal with the Gulf oil spill, ...try those 17 000 troops were brought in to keep the international volunteers and technology out!


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