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There is NO Industrial Recovery



April 23, 2011 – Comments (19)

Builders of New Homes See No Signs of Recovery

No kidding....the collapse of the Industrial Age is a mathematical certainty when bankers cut off credit/currency to currency is the lubricant of TRADE, and TRADE is the driver of the Industrial Age.

Whether you like it or not, America has become a system of the bankers, for the bankers, and you really don't matter anymore as far the winding down of an obsolete mode of functioning.

But please, this is in no way investment advice, or intended from taking you away from playing with your ticker.  As a matter of fact, playing with one's ticker can be fun on occasion.

The problem is becoming convulsive as more and more Americans are failing as they lose access to currency and capacty to trade.  Pretty soon, so few will be trading that more and more Industrial Systems will collapse.

Right now, everything is being held to together by counterfeiting a few Trillion dollars per year and throwing scraps to the citizens and billions to bankers.....but you know printing can't continue forever or currency will be worthless.

Absent LOVE, all we have left now is FORCE as more and more of Industrial America, and much of the world shuts down:

McCain Pushes Heavier US Involvement in Libya

Enjoy the ticker as it can be a lot of fun....but you shouldn't be surprised if one day you see the following:


and then the ticker doesn't tick anymore.

But it will NOT be the end of the world, just the end of a world as you know it....and a new wold will be created....what do you think we should call it?

19 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On April 23, 2011 at 3:11 PM, buffalonate (50.75) wrote:

Here is your industrial growth for you.   GDP has been growing for over a year. 

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#2) On April 23, 2011 at 3:40 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Yes, as measured in dollars...but the dollar has been crashing on a net basis, there is no REAL growth.....

and once the dollar is worthless....we will all be staring at each other trying to figure out who we are going to trade with....

just like many homeowners are doing today...

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#3) On April 23, 2011 at 4:06 PM, buffalonate (50.75) wrote:

The dollar could fall another 50% and it would only help our economy.  It makes our products cheaper to export and imports more expensive to buy. 

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#4) On April 23, 2011 at 4:13 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

We import more than we will make the products we buy MUCH more expensive so that we will barely be able to afford to eat.....

look around the world at all the riots, violence, and is only beginning as food and fuel prices skyrocket and wages collaspe both relatively and absolutely.

As food and fuel prices keep going up, pretty soon few will be able to afford anything....

It is not the end of the world, simply the end of the world as you know it as more and more move to FORCE everyday.

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#5) On April 23, 2011 at 4:15 PM, buffalonate (50.75) wrote:

This article explains why devaluing the dollar is good for our economy.  Domestic inflation was only 1.2% last year so that is hardly an argument for the value of the dollar being destroyed. 

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#6) On April 23, 2011 at 4:20 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

1.2%?  Food and Fuel are up 20, 30, 50% in some instances....and conditions are deteriorating daily as fewer and fewer can trade..

Tell the dollar isn't collapsing to all the dead people, their families and all those about to die because they can't afford to eat or their neighbors can't afford to eat.

Whey YOUR neighbor can't eat, and his family is starving ....he may eat you.

Reailty can  be a bit*h.  You may want to keep dreaming.

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#7) On April 23, 2011 at 5:28 PM, buffalonate (50.75) wrote:

The Consumer Price Index went up 1.2% last year.  Look it up genius.  There is inflation in a couple areas but overall inflation is really low.  Bernanke has publicly stated that when he starts to see inflation become a concern they will stop quantitative easing. 

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#8) On April 23, 2011 at 5:44 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

The CPI does NOT include Food and some nations food consumes more than 70% of family incomes.

Bernanke is a LIAR...he told you houses don't fall in price, the fell.....he told you subprime was contained, it was not.......told you unemployment is below 9% when employment is falling.

If you still believe what Bernanke is telling suggestion is watch INSIDE won an Acadamy Award....and then you will stop believing.

Bernanke is the only person who doesn't see my guess is we will see WW3 before he admits there is inflation.

Now we will have to see which comes first, WW3 or QE3 as millions are starving and dying because of Bernanke.....the Economic murderer of the modern Age.

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#9) On April 23, 2011 at 6:13 PM, buffalonate (50.75) wrote:

Here is an article by USDA talking about food inflation.  They said food prices went up from .5% to 1.5% in 2010.  They said that was the lowest amount of food inflation in 18 years.  They also said they expect food prices to go up 3% in 2011.  Here is the article.  As to unemployment, a private payroll processor ADP says February was the strongest hiring month in years.  Their numbers show we gained 217,000 jobs in February.  Read these articles.  Then maybe you will stop lying to people. 

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#10) On April 23, 2011 at 6:21 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Milk just went up 20% in a few days at Costco this week.  Gasoline is up over 40% from last year.  Many commodites are up over 100% in a year....while the quantity of food in packages is decreasing while prices are increasing.

My guess is the U.S.D.A. doesn't shop at grocery stores to determine inflation nor do they likely purchase gasoline at gas stations;)

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#11) On April 23, 2011 at 6:54 PM, buffalonate (50.75) wrote:

I give you facts and you give me opinions.  I keep giving you proof and you don't have any way of proving your points.  Find me an article where you can prove food inflation is bad and not just one isolated thing.  The USDA checks a large basket of goods and they found very little inflation.  You are picking one thing that goes up and using that as proof that all food prices are going up like crazy.  You have to look at the whole picture. 

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#12) On April 23, 2011 at 7:04 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Actually it is the other way around.

The unemployment rate is a conclusion based on a mathematical formula created by the FED, and a formula that has changed dramatically over the past few decades...the number of people working is a FACT.

Food prices going up is a FACT, evidenced by rioting and deaths all over the world...the CPI is a conclusion based on a mathematical formula. 

Conclusions contemplated are nothing more than mathematical opinions.

To prove my points, simply drive to the gas station or go to the grocery store...the facts speak for themselves.  Or you could survey almost any person living on this planet.

Watch the move INSIDE JOB and you will determine conclusively that the data from government cannot be trusted....and that documentary won an Acadamy Award...and that is a fact.

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#13) On April 23, 2011 at 8:06 PM, buffalonate (50.75) wrote:

The employment data I gave you above is not from the government it is from a payroll processor called ADP.  That is evidence, you just don't want to hear it.  We produce all of the food so it is much cheaper for us.  Find proof that prices are going up across the board in the U.S.  I gave you proof from the USDA and you gave me a vague statement about the rest of the world.  I deal in facts, you deal in opinion and rumor.  I know the bankers were crooked but that was 2 years ago.  All of the bank CEO's from that period have been fired.  Food and Gas are a part of CPI.  You want proof, read this article.

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#14) On April 23, 2011 at 8:59 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

You may want to live in reality:

Blanenfein, Dimon, and the others were CEOs then and are CEOs today. 

The stat you provide from ADP was one month, one month doesn't make a trend...especially when government is running a $1.6 trillion dollar deficit...enough to pay over 30,000,000 workers $50K per year.

Without a deficit we have no economy......and soon you will learn that we can't keep printing......and all the numbers you cite will be irrelevant.

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#15) On April 23, 2011 at 10:48 PM, buffalonate (50.75) wrote:

In the last 6 months employment has gone up by 1 million jobs according to ADP.  Here is the link to each month.  A lot of banks never fired their CEO because they did well during the financial crisis.  Dimon and JPMorgan never lost money.  Wells Fargo never lost money.  Pandit at Citigroup took over just before the crisis because the guy before him got fired for bad performance.  The Bank of America CEO was fired.  Bear Stearns Ceo stepped down.  Blankfein wasn't canned because Goldman Sachs never lost money.  He did fire a bunch of top guys for going rogue though.

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#16) On April 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Watch INSIDE JOB....

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#17) On April 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Watch INSIDE JOB....

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#18) On April 23, 2011 at 11:39 PM, buffalonate (50.75) wrote:

Watching "Inside Job" clearly fried your brain.  I know that Wallstreet was filled with crooks.  I don't need to watch that movie to know that.

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#19) On April 23, 2011 at 11:52 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Watch Inside Job

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