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This could CHANGE America!!!!! FOREVER!!!!!

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June 23, 2009 – Comments (11)

Without commentary one way or another.....this issue is likely to gain traction based on my initial review of the evidence.  I have significant experience in accident cases including complex construction/design defect litigation.  Although having yet to form a definitive conclusion..... this movement is building a case and changing perceptions....especially the over 700 architects and engineers supporting the thesis.

If found to be true....this could have a greater impact on our markets than just about any single event including 9/11.

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#1) On June 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM, dickseacup (67.96) wrote:

What matters the truth at this late date? Besides, any popular uprising would be met with martial law. Wouldn't you agree?

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#2) On June 23, 2009 at 6:15 PM, alstry (34.78) wrote:

dick,

I am not sure....in order for martial law to work.....you have to have support of the military......my hope is that the American military would never turn on its own people.

But tensions will definitely rise as more and more lose their jobs and financial pressures increase.

GM to cut 4,000 more white-collar jobs by year end- AP

 

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#3) On June 23, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Seano67 (29.13) wrote:

The knee-jerk reaction is to say that this is just preposterous, but there are still many, many, many unanswered questions regarding 9/11, and from many different angles, not just the engineering questions regarding the collapse of the WTC.

What I find most interesting among all the questions concerning 9/11 are the mysterious groups of Israelis who seemed to be posing as 'movers' who were detained as suspected conspirators in the attacks, one group in New York, one in Plymouth, Pennsylvania. There are just tons of questions surrounding these people; what they were up to with their strange behavior; why the New York group was observed by multiple witnesses as dancing for joy as they filmed the towers collapsing (prompting multiple calls to 911) and how they seemed to exhibit advance knowledge of the attacks; why the Pennsylvania group carried detailed photos, videos, and diagrams of the Sears Tower in Chicago; why Dominick Suter, an Israeli national who was the owner of 'Urban Moving Systems' (the NY group), why he fled to Israel so suddenly three days after the attack, abandoning his company and leaving more than 100 of his customers in the lurch, as they were unable to access their household goods which they'd stored at his warehouse, and which required a court order by the State of New Jersey to allow them access to their goods, as Suter had left no one behind to do those things, which would certainly make him appear as something much less than being the owner of a legitimate business on the up and up; and on, and on, and on, and on the questions go.....

This is not a matter of anti-Semitism, as these are all documented incidents. These men were detained and held, and there is continuing speculation that they were agents of the Israeli Mossad operating in the United States under the cover of being movers.  Could that possibly be true, and if so, then what the hell were they up to? No one knows, but the questions still remain.

Google Urban Moving Systems and check out that very strange story for yourselves. 

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#4) On June 23, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Starfirenv (< 20) wrote:

If immaculate conception is plausable, then why not immaculate implosion?

Google zeitgeistthemovie.com. Then google grooming obama. Then do some simple math.

I'm with dick, any uprising (threat to nat'l security) would be met poste haste.

Also, may be time to not assume constitional rights still apply as (it appears) one can now be considered a terrorist for sharing opinion.

Welcome to the beginning of the new world order.

Wish I knew how to do the blue links. Old dog/new tricks.

Keep 'em coming Cap'n Al.

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#5) On June 23, 2009 at 7:34 PM, duane1x (73.19) wrote:

Isn't this from over a year ago? In other words, not so likely to gain traction after all.

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#6) On June 23, 2009 at 8:20 PM, ralphmachio (24.37) wrote:

In order to establish martial law, the gov. would have to win the hearts and minds of at least SOME people, which they would be hard-pressed to do if sufficient evidence came out supporting the truth.  Someone has to believe in something to fight viciously against their people.  

On the flipside, someone fighting for survival fights harder than an oppressor.  They simply have more to gain.  

I think they will use a famine with a flu finally .  They have many options at their disposal,  HAARP being just one.  The punishment that they would face needs to be considered when determining their resolve.  They are very willing to kill millions to stay in power, and most importantly, not be prosecuted.  A man made seismic event could easily draw attention to a new problem, that would wipe out a large area where the government would encounter the most resistance.  Coincidentally, this is the same area where there are 500,000 plastic bins being stored that would be just the right size for up to 3 human bodies (not to say that I believe Alex jones 100%, and that I don't suspect he actually works for whatever powers may be)

Actually, the smartest thing for us to do is peaceful resistance.  Don't be the first to pick up a gun.  Don't make an excuse for anyone to use force.  Your rights are in the eyes of the beholder!  No piece of paper, in tact or not can dictate your freedom.  It is what you believe that controls this.  Of course, there's no getting around a hungry mob is an angry mob.  That is why everyone must consider where their food source will come from when trucking comes to a grinding halt.  They should also be friendly with people on their block.  

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#7) On June 23, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Roto1177 (79.52) wrote:

You guys must be kidding...do yourself a favor and actually read instead of listening to wild rumors (give it a rest about the Jewish conspiracy already)...

 

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

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#8) On June 23, 2009 at 10:48 PM, alstry (34.78) wrote:

Roto,

You are dead on!!!!  That is why Barack should DEMAND and independent investigation, and include some of those engineers and architects who are questioning the collapse......so we can put a rest to this once and for all.

Alstry's Axiom:

The truth always TRIUMPHS with scrutiny.  NOTHING should be ever banned from debate....including religion or any other event.

The truth is only gets stronger with analysis.

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#9) On June 23, 2009 at 11:21 PM, NANOINVESTOR (< 20) wrote:

This is just plain stupid.  We caught the people who admit they planned it.  We know exactly how they did it and it is quit simple.  If the towers were blown up from the bottom, why would they go through all of the trouble to have the planes involved?  Why not just blow up the towers like they tried in 1993?  It's a simple fact that thousands of gallons of jet fuel can melt steel like a knife through butter.  Then when the beams are melting, the load of the thousands of tons of steel and concrete make the foundation buckle, which results in the building collapsing from not being able to handle the work load. Thats why it took a little time for it to implode.  It just doesnt make since to fly planes into a building that they planned to blow up..

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#10) On June 23, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Starfirenv (< 20) wrote:

Assume the position?

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#11) On June 23, 2009 at 11:28 PM, alstry (34.78) wrote:

NANO,

As far as catching the people that did it, I still think we are hiking in the mountains on that mission.

As far as building 7, I don't think a plane ever hit it.  So you could be right on that one....especially since there was very sensitive SEC documents contained inside.

Again.....what better way to put the growing rumblings to rest than an independent investigation........we can all speculate one way or the other....I used to get paid arguing either side.....and quite frankly I didn't care what side I was on......I just liked to win.

I am quite sure that any additional investigations will only silence the doubters....especially since you are so sure with very logical reasoning.

Alstry says....bring on the investigation.....the more the merrier.....truth stands tall against all assaults.

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