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January 19, 2010 – Comments (34) | RELATED TICKERS: PFE , UNH , JNJ

Hurray  *hic*  Scott Brown *hic*  has won!!!  It's over!!!!  It's over!!!!  OBAMACARE is over!!!!!!!!!!!

*Hic*  apolo *hic* too much wine...so *hic* typeso...typos...are going *hic* to be numerous....

But....*hic*  This is what happens when *hic* Nancy, Reid, Obama hit us.....*hic*  We just turn around *hic* and hit back twice as hard!

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#1) On January 19, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Varchild2008 (85.38) wrote:

DISCLOSURE:  I donated to SCOTT BROWN and other than donating to the NY23 race, this was the SECOND time in my 29 years of life that I ever sent money to a politician.

*hic*

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#2) On January 19, 2010 at 9:25 PM, ChrisGraley (29.73) wrote:

Money well spent.

 

 

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#3) On January 19, 2010 at 10:37 PM, catoismymotor (39.43) wrote:

I am proud of the people of the United Socialist State of Massachusetts for voting, not for Brown, but against the Obama administration. When you are too far left for Mass. that is saying something.

*satisfied laughter*

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#4) On January 19, 2010 at 10:57 PM, FoolsGrad (99.95) wrote:

Who would have thought that three whites with job securities and healthcare are happy because poorer people are denied of the same opportunities? Wow, I am shocked. No, really. I am.

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#5) On January 19, 2010 at 11:00 PM, soycapital (< 20) wrote:

DISCLOSURE:  I donated to SCOTT BROWN and other than donating to the NY23 race, this was the SECOND time in my 29 years of life that I ever sent money to a politician.

THANK YOU!!!!!

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#6) On January 19, 2010 at 11:05 PM, FoolsGrad (99.95) wrote:

Why don't you spend that money to help a poor person securing some healthcare instead?

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#7) On January 19, 2010 at 11:22 PM, topsecret09 (36.97) wrote:

http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/ViewPost.aspx?bpid=329354&t=01009917921919779399  Woo Hooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  LOL  !!!!!!!!!

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#8) On January 19, 2010 at 11:32 PM, catoismymotor (39.43) wrote:

*Laughing at FoolsGrad*

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#9) On January 20, 2010 at 12:09 AM, ocsurf (< 20) wrote:

*Laughing at FoolsGrad****still laughing!***

Way to play the race card.

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#10) On January 20, 2010 at 8:43 AM, dudemonkey (38.74) wrote:

Stay classy, guys.

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#11) On January 20, 2010 at 8:51 AM, cthomas1017 (94.32) wrote:

foolsgrad doesn't apparently have to live in reality.  If he just imagines that these posts are from whites that have jobs and have healthcare, then that is reality in his/her little mind.  I spent 8 months of last year without a job or healthcare, but I did not waver from my principles.  But I suppose that is one of the things that separates me from people who form their beliefs around circumstances rather than the way things are.  (And for the record, fg, I continued to devote a substantial portion of my "down" time lst year helping those even less fortunate than myself - teaching to fish, so to speak.)

Watch where you point that finger.  If I were a betting man, I'd wager that the "three whites with job securities and healthcare" each contributed far more to those less fortunate than than the "finger pointer".  And I'm not a betting man.

Have a great day.  Go do something nice for someone who needs it. 

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#12) On January 20, 2010 at 11:10 AM, FoolsGrad (99.95) wrote:

Please raise your hand if you are currently unemployed and without health insurance.

My, my, look at the silence.

Of course the plights of the minorities and the poor would be judged to be "funny" by those who are not suffering as badly. Of course, those who are suffering the worst in this economic recession would not be as amused as the white folks here who patted their backs for the prospect of saving some more of their own money and continue the status quo of unequal distribution of healthcare.

cthomas,

It certainly is reassuring that the "support" for the status quo is coming from people of all stripes, but then, unless you are a teabagger you really are deluding yourself. Sure, 56% of the people are against the reform, but that's coming from 87% of the Republicans who are against it (see the link). Hmm....

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform

 

In any case, who is surprised that employed Whites with insurance would want to continue denying equal healthcare? I am not.

Finally, cthomas, I hope you realize that the "unfortunate" do not to be "taught" anything when they receive your "help." Please spare us your sanctimonious attitude. I sign up for the Habitat for the Humanity not to teach other people "how to fish," I do it because I believe everyone should have basic necessities in their lives.

P.S. Indeed, there is no need to point fingers. The Whites who are here laughing have told us plenty about the kind of people they are. I think those words are more telling than some unsubstantiated claims about donations from someone who is spending his time writing a blog here. What do you think, cthomas?

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#13) On January 20, 2010 at 11:26 AM, ocsurf (< 20) wrote:

It's funny how FoolsGrad thinks that everyone that disagrees with the healthcare issue is White and employed....Again, way to play the race card.

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#14) On January 20, 2010 at 11:26 AM, FoolsGrad (99.95) wrote:

P.P.S. Someone who has lost healthcare for 9 months but is still supporting the status quo is no different from religious retards who believe in prayers instead of getting chemotherapy for aggressive cancer.

Or that he is single and has no idea what a family life is like. Then again, I do not care about someone's private life, such as how much she/he has donated.

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#15) On January 20, 2010 at 11:30 AM, ETFsRule (99.94) wrote:

FoolsGrad:

Don't let these clowns bother you. If you look at the results from the last presidential election, specifically with the results broken down by age, it's clear that this country is close to reaching a tipping point. Republicans continue to get most of their support from crotchety old geezers, whereas young voters overwhelmingly vote for democrats. Well guess what, republicans? That strategy isn't going to work forever.

Obama's poll numbers may be down right now, but the fact remains: this country gets more and more liberal with every passing generation. It's simple evolution.

It's possible that we could have 1 or 2 more republican presidents over the next few years (or decades)... but after that, all these republicans and libertarians will be nothing more than an unpleasant memory, and the liberals will run the country :-)

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#16) On January 20, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Bamafan68 (97.95) wrote:

FoolsGrad, just out of curiosity, how do you know that the people you attacked are white?  Not only does that come off as presumptious, I think it is insulting to non-whites by assuming that we aren't allowed to have opinions that differ with your personal ideas.

By the way, I have no idea what the ethinicity of anyone on here is.  I don't think it is something that should even enter my mind. 

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#17) On January 20, 2010 at 11:34 AM, ChrisGraley (29.73) wrote:

FoolsGrad, be glad that this bill didn't go through, it would have made your situation worse and not better.

 

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#18) On January 20, 2010 at 11:39 AM, castleinvestor (55.10) wrote:

I think both healthcare bills in the house and senate are disasters. Therefore I am racist? Great.

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#19) On January 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, catoismymotor (39.43) wrote:

The rediculousness of what I am reading has me in stitches. This is better than The Onion. Thanks, FoolsGrad and ETFRule.

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#20) On January 20, 2010 at 12:07 PM, lemoneater (82.61) wrote:

Bamafan68, when I was in kindergarten, I remember thinking that black people had green blood. Children can get strange ideas. When I learned that my friend had red blood just like me, I thought "she isn't that different." God has made us of all one blood as it says in Acts 17:26. There is no superior race, we are all humans with choices to make. (A professor of mine once said that early racial prejudice can be traced to evolutionary ideas. The different races were assumed to be at different rates of evolution, but that is another topic.)  

I do not know what the right answer is to healthcare reform, but I think a lot of legislation equates insurance with healthcare. We can insure everybody, but who is going to guarantee that we will have enough medical professionals to go around, and enough research done on rare, debilitating diseases? I see insurance as just one issue in healthcare.

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#21) On January 20, 2010 at 12:15 PM, jmbring (< 20) wrote:

 it's a sad day when when one party's contribution is to refuse to cooperate in any fashion, spread mis-information, and set taking down the President as a priority; and the other party to resort to preposterous deal-making to pull out a win.  how is any citizen in this country winning in the above scenario?

here are the facts:  Medicare/Medicaid costs have to be addressed or we have a real crisis on our hands; and we have a tremendous number of citizens without healthcare.   if you care about these issues, there is nothing to celebrate until our elected officials act in our best interests.

 

 

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#22) On January 20, 2010 at 12:47 PM, cthomas1017 (94.32) wrote:

foolsgrad, what do I think?  Your words indicate that you are a sanctimonious, angry, race-baiting egotist who believes that it's more important to give a hand-out than a hand-up!  And that makes your charity more about you than it does to truly help.

It comes down to whether one believes that circumstances are what makes us or if we have a hand in creating our own circumstances.  Frankly, I've never gotten the HfH thing.  I'm drawn to initiatives where I hold the hand (or head or person) close, to connect with the individual.  I do my best to provide comfort, understanding, and yes, knowledge.  The poor in Haiti are not poor because we have not done enough or given enough.  They are poor because they have not been given the understanding, skills, and perspective about how to better themselves and their society.  Southern Mississippi was more devastated than New Orleans.  (And yes, I've been to both.)  But the coastal areas of MIssissippi have recovered without the media, massive handouts, and superior infrastructure feeds.  Why?  Simple.  The people of New Orleans had the determination, self reliance, and attitude that put the forces of progress back in motion.

I'm sure, foolgrad, that you have good intention.  But I'd encourage you to do a very deep self examination if your motivation has been more about you than the people you hand keys when a habitat is complete.  I'd also like to invite you to go back and visit two years after the build and see the fruit of your effort.  (It's well known that homes that have the intended owner actively participate in the construction project are an order of magnitude more successful 2-3 years out.  For some reason that I have yet to understand, HfH has not emphasized "owner" involvement.)

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#23) On January 20, 2010 at 12:50 PM, ChrisGraley (29.73) wrote:

ETFsRule (98.94) wrote:

It's possible that we could have 1 or 2 more republican presidents over the next few years (or decades)... but after that, all these republicans and libertarians will be nothing more than an unpleasant memory, and the liberals will run the country :-)

Hopefully not the same liberals that are running it now.

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#24) On January 20, 2010 at 12:54 PM, cthomas1017 (94.32) wrote:

Let's have fun with eftsrule... liberalism is doomed to die.  Republicans will replenish their gene pool.  Gays, man hating feminists & pro-abortion folks don't procreate.  If you're going to promote the benefits of evolution, you'd better figure out how to keep the pipeline of new members coming in. :o

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#25) On January 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Laniel (68.88) wrote:

cthomas, you don't stand a chance; we're going to turn your kids gay.

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#26) On January 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM, bigcat1969 (92.91) wrote:

And I thought my posts sometimes strayed away from MF's main purpose.  What is interesting to me is the tunnel vision of both the far left and the far right.  I believe that most in my country tend toward the center that doesn't like big business or big government.  This health care bill aims to give more power to both at a great cost of freedom and cash to the governed.  One way to get most folks pulling the same way is to try to take from the many to give to the few.  This makes everyone except the few unhappy.  I don't care if its Bush, Obama or anyone else, trying to play a reverse Robin Hood role is going to create problems.  We might be poor (or middle class) and you might be powerful, but there are a whole lot more of us then there are of you.  We should be thankful that we can vote the bums out and put other bums in quite often as it saves revolutions.  This is what happened to the Dems today and probably at the end of the year and what happened to the Publicans last time.  As long as it keeps happening we are fine, when folks notice that 'our' bums and 'your' bums both work for the greater good of the rich and powerful then we might be in serious trouble....

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#27) On January 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Bamafan68 (97.95) wrote:

Lemoneate, thank you for your comment. I have been accuse, with some justification, of being a raging optimist. Personally, I think all of us are much more alike than we are different.

Jmbring, I agree that Medicare and Medicaid need to be overhauled. I do not agree that celebrating the potential demise of the current 2 versions of health care is a bad thing. I see Sen. Brown's election as a positive sign that democracy, while never perfect, works. At a time when our national coffers are dry, people are struggling, and we are fighting a war against a shadowy organization that wants to kill Americans (Republicans, Democrats, old, young, caucasians and non-caucasians alike), I think the people of Massachusetts very clearly said that the current health care reform initiatives run counter to the best interests of the country. Like it or not, many Americans are distrustful of excessive government intervention in our lives. I hope that the message sent by this election is heard by everyone in Washington.

As for your statement regarding refusing to participate, it is my understanding that participation implies that someone is actually listening when a dissenting opinion is voiced. How many Republicans were invited into the back room dealings where the bills were actually hammered out? How many rough drafts of the bills were made available to moderate Republicans so that their input could be obtained? And misinformation has hardly been limited to one side of the political spectrum.

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#28) On January 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM, cthomas1017 (94.32) wrote:

And we were told all this time that a person couldn't be turned gay or not-gay.  There's no limit to the flow of new ideas in a delusional mind.  Situational ethics begets situational reality.  This really is fun. :p

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#29) On January 20, 2010 at 5:34 PM, FoolsGrad (99.95) wrote:

My, my, my. Look at the overpouring of posts from those without work and health insurance. LoL. That is called sarcasm, btw.

There are quite a few gems so let's go through those that are worth responding:

FoolsGrad, just out of curiosity, how do you know that the people you attacked are white?  Not only does that come off as presumptious, I think it is insulting to non-whites by assuming that we aren't allowed to have opinions that differ with your personal ideas.

By the way, I have no idea what the ethinicity of anyone on here is.  I don't think it is something that should even enter my mind

How many minorities are affiliated with teabaggers who come out under the bridge "celebrating" the death of any bills that would offer healthcare to the poor?

Of course it's not possible to know everyone's ethnicities here. But as I said, look at the words and the reactions, one could safely guess without much error.

cthomas,

foolsgrad, what do I think?  Your words indicate that you are a sanctimonious, angry, race-baiting egotist who believes that it's more important to give a hand-out than a hand-up!  And that makes your charity more about you than it does to truly help.

First of all, who cares what you think about me? I only care about your arguments (devoid of any evidence, of course). The current healthcare system is tied to employment is in no way offering anyone a "hands-up." The current system is punishing those who are being fired, and the young and the minority groups got the worst of it. Why is this system a "hands-up?" This is nothing more than jingoism without any grounding in reality.

But then again, what do you expect from a working White who is stuffed and is enjoying his healthcare? 

I'm sure, foolgrad, that you have good intention.  But I'd encourage you to do a very deep self examination if your motivation has been more about you than the people you hand keys when a habitat is complete.  I'd also like to invite you to go back and visit two years after the build and see the fruit of your effort.  (It's well known that homes that have the intended owner actively participate in the construction project are an order of magnitude more successful 2-3 years out.  For some reason that I have yet to understand, HfH has not emphasized "owner" involvement.)

Who gives a crap about the owners? I do the work out of my belief that people deserve basic necessities. I am not there to preach or to "teach."

Most important, I don't come to an online board to compare how much I have donated. I am here to discuss the unequal access to healthcare and to highlight the kinds of people who resist the status quo- the full-bellied Whites who already have the healthcare and would not shell out a single cent to those who do not have the access.

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#30) On January 20, 2010 at 5:38 PM, FoolsGrad (99.95) wrote:

ChrisGraley,

FoolsGrad, be glad that this bill didn't go through, it would have made your situation worse and not better.

My situation is completely fine. My continued employment is assured and my healthcare is top notch. 

Fortunately, I am under no illusion that other people share my circumstances or that the current status quo is fair or equitable.

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#31) On January 20, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Laniel (68.88) wrote:

cthomas, I answered you with the same level of reality that your post showed.

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#32) On January 20, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Varchild2008 (85.38) wrote:

Question to FoolsGrad:

How can the minorities and poor have Healthcare if under Obama's plan it requires tax hiking businesses out of business?

I drove in my car and eyeballed stores and noticed something... The proposed 10% tax hike on tanning booths may have a far greater negative impact on minorities and the poor than the benefits of giving them healthcare. 

How?

Powerhouse Gym..... Tanning booth....  They big time advertise it as apparently it is a big money maker for them.

*oops*  There goes Minorities and the Poor who lose their jobs for the sake of Universal Health Care.

What us "Whites with Healthcare" want as you put it.... is to make sure Minorities and the Poor have jobs available for them to get hired or job training to learn the skills they need to land the better paying jobs....and to excel in whatever job they get so they can get promoted....and with promotion comes better and better healthcare options.

Sure.... If you lose your job you don't get healthcare in our system... that is a shame....  But the solution isn't MORE UNEMPLOYMENT through HIGHER TAXES...

The solution is DE-REGULATE the HEALTHCARE industry to create more competition between health care insurers... bring costs down.... increase access....   And furthermore... through competition comes...yup....job creation.....as more healthcare insurance company's are able to now tailer their plans however they want....and to try and entice customers to sign up to their plans....

It is highly unfortunate that people consistently think that more healthcare always has to mean someone else has to pay for it.

I say more healthcare just means individual people...such as minorities or the poor....have to work hard to get it and keep it and we need a Government that gets out of the way of the Healthcare Industry so that healthcare is available to them at the cheapest cost possible.

Oh....and I am a huge proponent of the HSA.

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#33) On January 20, 2010 at 9:19 PM, ChrisGraley (29.73) wrote:

#30) On January 20, 2010 at 5:38 PM, FoolsGrad (99.71) wrote:

My situation is completely fine. My continued employment is assured and my healthcare is top notch. 

Fortunately, I am under no illusion that other people share my circumstances or that the current status quo is fair or equitable.

If you have healthcare, your situation would have been worse. If you didn't have healthcare, your situation would have been worse. Did you reserch the bill or did you just agree with it because somebody told you it was a way to get back at pot-bellied white people. I think you are full of illusions, the first illusion being exactly who the enemy is. The second illusion being what this bill is about.

BTW what race do you think I am?

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#34) On January 22, 2010 at 1:44 AM, HarryCarysGhost (99.70) wrote:

catoismymotor

I happen to be blue.

All Glory to The Smurfs.

Or

All Glory to Garglmyle the evil wizard.

 

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