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What 'we' really think about healthcare reform



August 13, 2009 – Comments (6)

It is getting a bit tiresome isn't it.  Loads of propaganda from all sides as to what healthcare reform is and what we supposedly do and don't want.

Well, here is a good review of what our collective opinions appear to actually be.  The following link (free, but may need registration) reviews the polling that has been done. 

Of course no one individual has a collective opinion.  Also, it is not a big surprise that we can't 'all' or even collectively be satisfied in a practical way. 

As we examine these key issues, we see that three elements — requiring insurers to cover people with preexisting conditions, increasing taxes on people with higher incomes, and an employer mandate — have widespread public support. Introduction of a public plan as a competitor is supported in most polls, but respondents vary in their beliefs about how such a plan should function. 

Probably also not helping things is our cognitively dissonant way in which we seek information these days, actively looking for news or news sources that enforces our beliefs rather than challenges them (and makes us think).

My own opinion is that reform is coming, with or without the system embracing it.  The existing model is just too innefficient and of limited service for it not to be disrupted.  We could get ahead of the disruption with policy, but we rarely do, so I expect the process will be painful.  Lets hope that we at least don't stand in the way.  So much of the arguments I hear against reform seem to be coming from those invested in maintaining a healthcare paradigm that will likely collapse anyway.



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6 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On August 13, 2009 at 1:07 AM, dbjella (< 20) wrote:

You are right we are going to get reform.  

My question continues to be at what cost?  This nation is broke!!!!!!!!!!

If anyone think that gov't involvement hasn't been the main reason for the increase in costs, then where is all this money coming from?  Wages and corporate profits have not kept up with healthcare costs. To me that leaves the only other party (aka the Fed and State gov't) with enough capital (debt) to drive up prices.

So I am mad.  Mad that my children inherit a country that is bankrupt.  At least I can say I wrote my congress.  I believe healthcare is a great need, but we are BROKE!!!!!!!!  There, that is it, that is my frustration.

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#2) On August 13, 2009 at 1:55 AM, GreenMachine09 (27.93) wrote:

I do not know at this point if reform is on it's way or not. Information is being moved at a wicked pace(from both sides), in a race to cram it down people's throats.

As far as the current health care bill, this is what I came up with as my opinion.

If we were to go through with this bill, yes Medicare would lose much of it's funding, and from what I understand from the Obama Administration the quality of care will not change. I simply have to ask President Obama, what is the true difference between having health care lacking the necessary funding to provide quality care, and having no health care at all. My answer is it comes down to numbers. There will be millions of more people with health care at the end of the day, but end the end all you changed were digits and amount of government involvment. Then on the flip side, life expectancy, and quality of care decrease and the budget skyrockets.

Yes, I am not just here to bring up the problems I have with someone else's plan. I do have a very radical solution. If we are in such of a dire need to reform in this age where we have much larger issues, lets go back in time. How about eliminate the health care system completely? Let's go back to pre-Nixon times where there was no health care system that was originally created too much on the business side and not enough on the moral side. The free market will handle it from there, because idea's will arrise and evolve like they are supposed to in America. From the PEOPLE, NOT THE GOVERNMENT.

Don't take it too seriously though because I am open to other ideas and solutions, not to mention my idea is only a pipe dream.

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#3) On August 13, 2009 at 3:13 AM, gldnlvr64 (< 20) wrote:

No rec from me.

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#4) On August 13, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Elizabeth09 (< 20) wrote:

Health care reform is one of Obama’s plan. But as the news go on today, Health care insurance are nearly in loss. As well as health care costs are really expensive. Most insured and even uninsured are in burden situation. Almost individual who are facing a health care cost necessities search for an easy payday loans online just to apply for a fast cash.

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#5) On August 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM, devoish (67.86) wrote:


Where have you heard that HR3200 would cause Medicare to "lose much of its funding"?

This sounds like part of a "lets scare seniors" campaign of disinformation to me.

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#6) On August 13, 2009 at 5:59 PM, GreenMachine09 (27.93) wrote:


Throughout the bill it proposes 400-500 Billion in cuts of Medicare benefits, and physician reimbusements along with other things. It would amount to about 20-21% of the total Medicare funding which is a significant portion in my opinion. Numbers have been tossed around that 90% of Medicare spending on average is spent during the last year of one's life, and this is where they want to significantly cut back on "unecessary operations" and such to cut costs as well.

I do not intend to try and scare anyone, period. The senior citizens are scared and angry without me telling them to be, please do not accuse me of any campaign attempts when I am only providing information that shapes my own personal view point.

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