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What % of America is Government Dependent????

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November 05, 2009 – Comments (12)

About 40,000,000 Americans receive Food Stamps.

About 15,000,000 Americans receive Unemployment Checks.

About 22,000,000 Americans work directly for the Government.

About 57,000,000 Americans receive Social Security and/or Disability.

Millions of Americans contract directly for the Govenrment or work for private companies that are Government Contractors such as the military defense contractors.

Over half of health care dollars comes from government spend and over 10% of the workforce now works in health care.

IN THE GREAT DEPRESSION.....GOVERNMENT SPENT VERY LITTLE AND WAS A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE ECONOMY.

TODAY....GOVERNMENT IS PRACTICALLY THE ECONOMY, ESPECIALLY FACTORING THE MULTIPLIER EFFECT OF THE ABOVE SPEND ON PRIVATE INDUSTRY.

How is the above sustainable with tax receipts to government evaporating at record rates, current obligations rising rapidly, and all against a backdrop of the biggest government deficit in history?

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#1) On November 05, 2009 at 8:20 AM, alstry (35.71) wrote:

After contemplating the above....then factor what % of the private economy is dependent on the above spending to survive???

Any wonder why Costco is now accepting Food Stamps.

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#2) On November 05, 2009 at 8:24 AM, dickseacup (68.62) wrote:

If the private sector portion of the economy, as small as it is, had been run as properly and efficiently as the larger, government driven sector of the economy, we wouldn't be in this predicament. Obviously, what needs to happen is the government needs to take over the remaining industries and markets that are not yet fully within the control of the FedGov(tm)(r)(c)(sm). Only then will we be able to turn the corner and end this economic malaise once and for all.

As much as I detest Ayn Rand and her wacky, sycophantic cult followers, I am given, lately, to wondering, "Who is John Galt?"

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#3) On November 05, 2009 at 8:32 AM, alstry (35.71) wrote:

The problem we face is that most of whatever remains of the private sector is very dependent on the government spending to survive....Especially our leading industries like health care and technology.

We bascially created a Ponzi Scheme where in the early part of this decade the private sector borrowed money to drive government revenues and now that the private sector is being cut off, the government is borrowing money to sustain a shrinking private sector.

Once the government is cut off from borrowing by foreigners and/or primarey dealers.....we really don't have much of an economy remaining without massive government spend and the multiplier effect on the rest of the system.

It is why war is seemingly a stronger and stronger liklihood in order to segway the population into understanding its true economic state.

 

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#4) On November 05, 2009 at 8:40 AM, alstry (35.71) wrote:

Further, what is absolutely amazing is that over 500,000 people are still applying for First Time unemployment checks EACH WEEK....at this stage in the game WHILE so few are hiring anymore due to budget cutbacks.

Many analysts are still using the 400,000 equilibrium number for job creation/destruction.  My guess, based on numerous data points, is the actual number is probably less than half that amount currently.

Evidencing this is incredible is the rapid decline in tax receipts.........and what is incredible is such little attention is being paid to the most important revenue source in our economy.

In sum, if government doesn't spned.....much of our nation starves under the current system....and now government is running out of money.

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#5) On November 05, 2009 at 10:36 AM, miteycasey (84.44) wrote:

About 40,000,000 Americans receive Food Stamps.

About 15,000,000 Americans receive Unemployment Checks.

About 22,000,000 Americans work directly for the Government.

About 57,000,000 Americans receive Social Security and/or Disability.

 

How people are counted multiple times in those numbers???

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#6) On November 05, 2009 at 10:42 AM, jddubya (< 20) wrote:

#5) On November 03, 2009 at 4:20 PM, alstry (99.65) wrote:

Actually, the whole concept of Alstry is a joke...

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#7) On November 05, 2009 at 10:56 AM, derekg52 (< 20) wrote:

miteycasey

 

Doing a quick rough calculation, it is a minimum of 57,000,000 and a max of  134,000,000 using those figures.  There will of course be overlap, most likely between the food stamps, unemployment checks and social security/disability.  Using the population of 300,000,000 somewhere between 19 - 44% is dependent.

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#8) On November 05, 2009 at 10:59 AM, alasker (< 20) wrote:

Probably 1 net taxpayer for every 1 net tax receiver. I also wonder what percentage of the world is dependent on the US government. We do "spread the wealth around" through financial and military support.

As as side note I re-read Leonard Read's "I pencil" story which showed it takes an immeasurable number of people to make a $0.10 pencil- commerce has a magical way of self organizing.

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#9) On November 05, 2009 at 11:01 AM, alstry (35.71) wrote:

Bingo jd...now you get it.

Our whole economy is simply one big Ponzi Scheme of government borrowing money that  doesn't exist that people are hoping will be of value when they retire......

Alstry is simply a cyber character documenting the process of of the Ponzi Scheme unwinding and the economy as we know it shutting down.

Small-town fire departments are closing across the Midwest, said Lois Hartman, the retiring North Dakota Firefighters Association executive director.

The departments need more money and equipment and they have expansive service areas that continue to grow, she said. These challenges result in longer response times, fewer volunteers and more areas at risk.

http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/event/article/id/29051/group/home/

As we approach 11.10.9....the rate of the shutting down of America and the acceleration of unwinding will be felt by millions of Americans.

Mercks - Possible 16,000 Layoffs?

Merced County - 300 Buyouts / Early Retirement

Trinity Mirror ( International ) - 17 Editorial Jobs

Chevron ( Cook Inlet ) - 25

Real Networks - 4% of Workforce

Classmates - 71

Alabama State Agencies Laying off

Update: City of Elyria - Probably 15 Officers

City of Perris - Layoffs but How Many?

Neenah Common Council Approves City Teamsters Union Layoffs in 2010

City of Ukiah approved - 21 Layoffs

City of Henderson - Layoffs Likely

Schuyler County - 12 Layoffs Possible

Summit County - Plans 45 Layoffs Next Month

Washington Parish Sheriff's Office - 20

Sun Microsystems in Hillsboro - 42

Nordyne - 110

Sparta-Hancock County Library - Cutting Hours / Jobs ?

Empire Aero Center - 88

Hamilton Sundstrand in Rockford - 24

GM - 10,000 Layoffs at Opel

Franklin County - Layoffs Coming?

 

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#10) On November 05, 2009 at 11:06 AM, alstry (35.71) wrote:

Doing a quick rough calculation, it is a minimum of 57,000,000 and a max of  134,000,000 using those figures.  There will of course be overlap, most likely between the food stamps, unemployment checks and social security/disability.  Using the population of 300,000,000 somewhere between 19 - 44% is dependent.

Actually, the number is probably closer to 2/3 because included in the 300,000,000 is the children of the government workers government contractors and unemployed.  Further, tens of millions of incomes are dependent on those receiving government payments to spend at their private business.

The key is to determine where the first dollar origninates....and right now trillions are simply being borrowed/printed from government and transferred to citizens.

Since we are now self funding/finanicing for the first time in our nation's history.....it is a classic ponzi scheme.

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#11) On November 05, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Rasbold (90.31) wrote:

HEY!!!

 

GM doesn't count!

Keep it to American jobs,

 

May Your Dow Never Jones!

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#12) On November 11, 2009 at 3:46 AM, KamranatUCLA (29.76) wrote:

U.S. of A. will break down in pieces. Federal Government is the first to go. As many state will realize that Feds are really not there to help them out many states will break away from the U.S. Texas being the first state to seperate, then southern states will join to make Federated States. California will go to China, Hawaii will go to Japan and China, Alaska will be sold back to Russia. Many other states will be part of Canada.

We all voted for Stupid Obama to end the war that is emptying our pockets. What does he do??? gets more involved in Afghanistan, AND spends more money in healthcare.

America was always broke, but atleast we knew how to turn things around. Now we can't even do that.

The old generation will run the U.S into the ground. Young people stop paying taxes because they know they will never get Social Security benefits...

The old generation is keeping stocks up artificially so they can get rid of their stocks...what is going on right now is very simple....our tax money is going to the pocket of old people...in form of artifically high stock prices, in form of medicare and social security and other social services. We have become a land of social service receipitants instead of the land of do-ers.

You know things are bad when one can't even work for free. I signed up for Habitat for Humanity as a volunteer worker and they sent me an email one day before my volunteering day that they have "too many volunteer workers and the crowd of volunteer workers may hinder the work."

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