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What The Heck Is Happening To America???



November 14, 2009 – Comments (25)

We are suppposed to believe that 40 of our best and brightest about to be deployed were gunned down by a single whacky psychiatrist carrying a .357 and 9mm in each hand like Jesse James and had time to get off over 100 rounds and reload being forced to put one gun down without being stopped by the best trained soldiers in the world?

We are supposed to believe that bankers are doing god's work and god wants them to get billions in bonuses paid by taxpayers?

We are supposed to believe that it is OK for insolvent bankers to kick out insolvent citizens from their homes?

We are supposed to believe that it is not usury for an insolvent bank to charge 29% on a credit card when taxpayers are extorted into giving that same bank billions of dollars for free?

We are supposed to believe that when tax receipts are down around 20% that the GDP has only contracted 5%?

We are supposed to believe that it is practically impossible for Goldman Sachs to have a losing day trading without somehow gaming the system?

We are supposed to believe that we are only in a recession when about 20% of the labor force is unemployed?

We are supposed to believe that conditions are improving when tax receipts are evaporating while running a $2 Trillion dollar deficit?

We are supposed to believe that the banks are solvent when they are lying about the value of assets and the FDIC is out of money shutting down more and more banks without any geographical concentration?

We are supposed to believe that our politicians represent the citizens when the citizens are being bent over by Wall Street to an extent never before seen in human history?

We are supposed to believe it is OK to pay a private contractor $200K per year standing next to a soldier making less than 1/5th that amount in the same conflict?

We are supposed to believe that our deficit is going to contract as cities, counties, and states are running out of money, our population is aging, poverty is exploding as tens of millions of Americans are losing their jobs or suffering massive wage losses?

We are supposed to believe that shutting down over 6000 auto dealerships, suffering a 70-90% decline in commercial real estate sales in prime major cities, 40,000,000 Americans on food stamps, 50,000,000 Americans uninsured, 10,000,000 families facing foreclosure and bankruptcies growing rapidly is NOT a depression?

What will America look like next year when millions of additional businesses shut down, tens of millions of additional workers get fired and/or suffer more wage loss, few hiring, and government cuts and slashes spending trying to keep up with declining tax receipts???....and we are supposed to believe the recesssion is over?

What else will we be supposed to believe???  Stay tuned because when you don't have a pulse.......the outlook is grim.

25 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On November 15, 2009 at 12:08 AM, simplemts (< 20) wrote:

"We are suppposed to believe that 40 of our best and brightest about to be deployed were gunned down by a single whacky psychiatrist carrying a .357 and 9mm in each hand like Jesse James and had time to get off over 100 rounds and reload being forced to put one gun down without being stopped by the best trained soldiers in the world?"

 Alstry I like following your blogs, and I am not some kind of die hard patriot, but the above statement is just insensitive.  I would like to see you bring down a man with two weapons when you have none.  In case you don't know, soldiers on the base generally do not carry weapons.  I have yet to meet a man who will charge at someone with two guns when they have nothing... especially a man who blogs 24/7 instead of paying attention to the people important around him.  If America is crumbling, why not pay attention to your friends and family and not a computer screen. 

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#2) On November 15, 2009 at 12:17 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


Chowchilla, California (KFSN) -- The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation is planning to cut between 600 and 900 prison staff members across the state to deal with a more than one billion dollar budget deficit.

Hawaii foreclosures were up 134 percent from last October

Tennessee Gov. Bredesen Says State Poor Economy Shown Little Improvement 

20% Budget Cuts Planned For Michigan for 2011

More Big Cuts Coming to Virginia DOT

Texas Sales-Tax Revenues Down 13% for October

Kentucky Manufacturing Jobs Dropped 10% in last 24 Months

Butler County - 1 in 10 on Food Stamps

U.S. state and local government pensions are underfunded by $1 trillion


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#3) On November 15, 2009 at 12:20 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


After the horrible massacre at Ft. Hood, I spoke with a few people who served in the military. A retired army Capt. who served 7 years in the 173rd Airborne including time as a S-3 in a RSTA squadron said this: "There is no way a psychiatrist – basically an intellectual desk jockey – shot off hundreds of rounds with two pistols and hit about 40 people without being subdued by someone. Come on! He wasn't a trained assassin or a special ops commando shooting up a mall. He would have had to reload and that means putting one of the pistols down and reloading the other with seasoned combat vets in that deployment center. It only takes seconds to reload, but it only takes a second to subdue him."

A retired MP, Michael Martinez also said: "No way! That would be impossible. Even if he had two semi-auto pistols [according to early reports he used a 9mm and a .357 revolver to gun down over 40 people] he would still have had to stop to reload and someone would have jumped his ass. Most people on base aren't carrying [weapons], but MPs are and they would have been there in a heartbeat."

SFC Donald Buswell said, "I spent 10 years at Ft Hood. There is no way this 'official' story is legitimate. No way would a room full of combat vets allow this one shooter to get off over 100 rounds! And, it is not normal for the outside security guards to be there. They are at the MP station, and at the main gates. This means the room full of soldiers processing must have been pinned down; multiple shooters is the only plausible scenario. This sounds like Maj. Hasan has been used, and perhaps is a patsy."

Michael Gaddy, an army veteran of Vietnam, Beirut and Grenada writes: "The facts as presented by the Army and the media [about] the shooting at Fort Hood just don't compute. People on the ground have told me cell phone towers were jammed to prevent unauthorized dissemination of information after the shooting."

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#4) On November 15, 2009 at 12:26 AM, jddubya (< 20) wrote:


Alstry's belief in conspiracies is just one sign of his mental instability.  His agenda is one of spreading fear.  Constantly. 

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#5) On November 15, 2009 at 12:36 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote: are probably one of the sheep that thought when the Big Saddam Hussein statue came down, a scene played over and over again....was real and not staged.

Some people simply are sheep and find critical thinking taxing.

Reminder: Saddam Statue Was Toppled by Psy-Ops : NPR

The best way to honor our fallen is with the truth.


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#6) On November 15, 2009 at 12:43 AM, jddubya (< 20) wrote:

LOL - you're so warped in your thinking that all I can do is laugh AT you.

So if you're honoring our fallen at Ft. Hood, why don't you tell the truth about exactly what happened?!?!?!?

Answer: Because you can't.  You're not honoring the fallen you nut job.

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#7) On November 15, 2009 at 12:50 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


You are right, I can't say exactly what happened.  But knowing a soldier or two in my life, and having the honor of being the personal representative of a highly decorated veteran buried in Arlington, I can tell you with a high degree of certainty what didn't happen.

Let's hope President Obama's in depth investigation reveals exactly what our soldiers were up against.

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#8) On November 15, 2009 at 12:51 AM, ChannelDunlap (< 20) wrote:

Alstry, I live & work less than 30 minutes from Ft Hood, and I can assure you that cell phone towers were not jammed.  3/4 of the people around me had friends or family there and they were all able to get ahold of them via cell phones to make sure they were OK.

You're really reaching here Alstry.  But that's nothing new, you've been doing it for the past 6 months.


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#9) On November 15, 2009 at 2:20 AM, caterpillar10 wrote:

I love conspiracies myself; but I just don't see an angle here.

It's a contained and controlled environment, no grassy knoll for ops playing hobo to slither away from.

Too many knowledgeable witnesses, not simple Roswell town folk of the 50s intimidated by uniforms or black suits & limos. Somebody would be talking by now.

There's no 'Remember the Maine' moment to gain - we're already at war and pretty much all-in xcept for nukes.... I don't think even Chaney is that nuts.

So, inside job doesn't work. What else? They were penetrated by some hard core cell and don't want to admit it, or.... something? If that were the case it would have been far worse.

Without any of the forensics, but plenty of handguns from age 5, I say 40 hits in a closed, crowded environment & element of surprise is not any big stretch. With the right jacketed ammo there is not necessarily a reload involved.

I'm sure he's surprised to have survived; clearly he was going for it.  

Conspiracy/cover-up? Nothing to work with here. 

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#10) On November 15, 2009 at 2:22 AM, caterpillar10 wrote:

BTW: the rest of the post is tight.

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#11) On November 15, 2009 at 2:26 AM, GreenMachine09 (29.55) wrote:

I have to take pause when thinking about the whole issue. You don't want to point to consipracy theories per say, but an investigation from the outside would be preferable. Things as is, do not add up.

As the news unfolded, way too many contradictions happened in the media for me to just completely agree with the final conclusion drawn by authorities.  I would hear, 3 shooters at first.  Then one was in custody and they were looking for 2 others. Then 2 were in custody and one was dead. Then one was in custody and that was the "lone" shooter.

Also, the quality of the shooting for one person would be fairly improbably, albeit not impossible. The rate of his headshots was abnormally high, and again.. he would have had to reload each weapon multiple times.

Seriously though, using you logic to the best you know does not make you crazy for coming up with a "conspiracy" theory.  When something unique happens for the first time and you have no history to judge from, applying logic dosesn't always work, but using it should not result in you being demonized for using your best judgement.

The final verdict of the investigation will only have one possible result. Do you really think they would EVER come out and say that there was another shooter that got away? It is improbable, again it is not impossible.  Even if the base was secure shortly after, one person could have managed to blend in, especially in the ensuing chaos.

Remember, the "lone shooter" is still alive.  They should stop speculating and start interogating.  He is able to speak, even if he is bad condition, you have to get his final story.  Maybe they are avoiding talking to him for a specific reason?  Maybe they don't want to acknowledge his relationship with terrorist organizations or lack there of?  Maybe they don't want him to talk because he would claim that he was not the only shooter?  If none of these are true then we should be interrogating 24/7 until we know every single detail.

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#12) On November 15, 2009 at 9:16 AM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

12 trillion was just hit on debt and counting.

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#13) On November 15, 2009 at 12:58 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


"Governor Paterson has proposed $278 million in cuts to Medicaid funding which, when combined with federal matching dollars, would slash funding to health care providers by $747 million. We struggle to understand the rationale and wisdom of balancing the lion's share of New York's budget shortfalls squarely on the shoulders of an already fragile health care system.

"The Governor has said it is his priority to ensure access to care for all New Yorkers. However, over the last 18 months he has supported four distinct budget actions that, combined, cut funding to New York State's health care providers by a staggering $3.87 billion. The impacts of these actions are very real, yielding thousands of job losses and severely limiting New Yorkers' access to vital health care services throughout the state.

"This ongoing pattern of health care cuts is unsustainable and threatens providers' ability to provide 19 million New Yorkers with essential care, including
cancer treatment and emergency services.

"Moreover, health care providers are the economic engines of our communities-if the deficit reduction plan is enacted, it will directly yield a commensurate loss of jobs and health care services, exacerbating the very revenue shortfalls the Governor is attempting to offset. Health care cuts are not the answer, and the Governor's plan does nothing to address the root of our economic woes. Legislators must look elsewhere to balance the budget.

"With a Special Legislative Session scheduled for next week, we strongly encourage the Governor and legislative leaders to work in concert with the health care community to find a solution that can work for all concerned-and, most importantly, that will ensure adequate care for all New Yorkers."

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#14) On November 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


SAN DIEGO (MarketWatch) -- The Federal Housing Administration is considering a variety of changes -- including requiring larger down payments for FHA-insured mortgages, demanding higher credit scores of FHA borrowers and upping FHA mortgage premiums -- to manage risk as it deals with losses in its capital reserve fund, FHA Commissioner David H. Stevens said Saturday.

Good timing???

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#15) On November 15, 2009 at 2:11 PM, semper77 (< 20) wrote:

Don't know about the Ft. Hood question, but the rest of this post is dead on.

There's no way this country, its business, its workforce, or its stock market can move forward in any meaningful way given its current level of business and political corruption.

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#16) On November 15, 2009 at 2:34 PM, caterpillar10 wrote:

Do you really think they would EVER come out and say that there was another shooter that got away? ..... one person could have managed to blend in, especially in the ensuing chaos.

OK. That's what I,m talkin'bout. Ya got me there...... I don't think so; but it's enough to keep this going for a long time.

Here's your answer for 'What the heck....?' On The Run With The 2nd Shooter.....going once.... going twice ....bang! sold to the clone authoring book publisher (TV movie not included). One nation under contract with liberty & Manhattan show trials for scumbags and justice for billionares. 

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#17) On November 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM, prose976 (< 20) wrote:

What has happened to America?  God has been pushed into a corner, nay, out the door.  God has been given walking papers.  Exactly what happens in every civilization that has ever crumbled.  Exactly what happens as a prelude to extreme socialism and communism.

The United States of America was founded with Godly fundamentals.  Godly morals are the stuff that holds the foundation together and keeps it strong.  When a society allows immoral, ungodly people to rule, then God is extracted from the foundation, and all you have left is sand.

Nobody wants to mention God's omnipotence in our daily lives.  Socialists, Communists and pure Capitalists loathe God and the morals that go along with belief in Divinity.

As we can see, the leader of GS likens him and his types as God's helpers.  B.O. hides all likenesses and avoids all references to God.

God hasn't abandoned us...we have elected leaders who have abandoned God.  So we get what we have put our faith in...corruption.

It's as simple as that.  And many people here on the Fool pooh pooh the idea that God even exists or has any active role in our society.  Just read the first 2-3 lines of our Declaration of Independence.

Fool on!

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#18) On November 15, 2009 at 2:42 PM, prose976 (< 20) wrote:

I personally cannot believe that our military leaders haven't caught on that the supreme commander is not defending our Constitution but doing everything within his power to bend, twist, corrupt and change it.  I thought that our military warriors and leaders swore to defend the Constitution, not a corrupt, communist commander in chief.

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#19) On November 15, 2009 at 2:47 PM, tkell31 (48.40) wrote:

Stupid post, but since I'm here.

 Yes, because it is what happened.

No, but then again, who does? 

If people lived up to their obligations the banks wouldnt be insolvent.  Blame the bums living beyond their means.

Taxpayers paying 29% are NOT the ones bailing out the banks.  Those "taxpayers" are not paying any federal income tax because they are poor anyone else is smart enough not to get in that kind of mess.

Recession/depression who cares?  Does the term really matter.

 I will give you the corruption that is rampant makes me wish the guy in Fort Hood showed up at a congressional hearing or a board of directors meeting instead.   Not sure what the answer is, maybe businesses need a salary cap like pro-sports teams.

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#20) On November 15, 2009 at 2:59 PM, DivMonk (90.72) wrote:


I find it interesting that you think America was founded by Godly fundamentals.  If by godly fundamentals, you mean slavery of blacks and genocide of native americans, then perhaps.  

I guess all the ungodly progress America made over the last couple centuries in giving all races and genders equal rights, ending slavery and such really is corrupting us. 



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#21) On November 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM, janis1023 (< 20) wrote:

"We are supposed to believe it is OK to pay a private contractor $200K per year standing next to a soldier making less than 1/5th that amount in the same conflict?"

 You made some really good points, but this is the one that really gets me.  We should be ashamed of ourselves as a nation that we have allowed private contractors to make that kind of money to do what the army is trained to do.  IF IT IS JUSTIFIABLE TO PAY THAT KIND OF MONEY FOR HAZARDOUS DUTY, HOW CAN WE NOT PAY OUR SOLDIERS THE SAME?   Cause they were stupid enough to volunteer?  Makes me sick!  Wrong message.  I believe Rumsfield came up with this insulting plan?

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#22) On November 15, 2009 at 3:23 PM, prose976 (< 20) wrote:

InvestingMonk:  All said and done, there have been many morally correct decisions made, including the abolition of slavery.  And by the way, equal rights does not mean entitlements or special simply means that the government shall protect our individual freedoms and liberties.

Slavery was, indeed, immoral.  Slavery weakened our countryt, and eventually led to the division of our entire country, following the Godly, moral decision called the Emancipation Proclamation.

tkell31, it's myopic milquetoast one-cent remarks like yours that gloss over the importance of God in our lives and how decisions and actions which contradict Godly moral fundamentals ultimately lead to the weakening and eventual breakdown of society.  This leaves no small fabric of society untouched...from banks to healthcare, elections, military.  You name it...if it's run by immoral people, then it is corrupt and will only worsen.

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#23) On November 15, 2009 at 3:25 PM, prose976 (< 20) wrote:

After the civil war, after this moral decision was made and resolved, our country became more unified than it had ever been since the Declaration of Independence.

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#24) On November 15, 2009 at 3:32 PM, GreenMachine09 (29.55) wrote:

The country was found on the Godly principles, or the belief in a higher being in any sense.  The principles were originally to be applied to every single individual not because of the fact that they were unalienable rights that could not be taken away by anyone.  However, the Constitution would have never had been passed and we would have collapsed as a nation if a comprimise was not struck.  So unfortunately, the rights of people who were not in power were placed on the backburner behind the independence and survival of the young nation.

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#25) On November 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM, FoolsGrad (99.93) wrote:

wow, blogs on MF are becoming more and more like Yahoo Finance's message boards.

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