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Where did all my rights go?

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November 10, 2009 – Comments (17)

"Freedom is rarely lost in a single stroke. The danger lies in losing it bit by bit." -Dennis Patrick, former FCC Chairman

"Government, in my humble opinion, should be formed to secure and to enlarge the exercise of the natural rights of its members; and every government, which has not this in view, as its principal object, is not a government of the legitimate kind." -James Wilson, Lectures on Law, 1791

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and pursuit of Happiness: that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." -Declaration of Independence

 "That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves." -Thomas Jefferson

"But with respect to future debt; would it not be wise and just for that nation to declare in the constitution they are forming that neither the legislature, nor the nation itself can validly contract more debt, than they may pay within their own age, or within the term of 19 years." -Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, September 6, 1789

"A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins." -Benjamin Franklin

Fortunately, I have my escape plan in place and can leave the country when everything hits the fan and it will hit the fan. Most of us where born into a slavery of debt that was created by our parents. We have continued this tradition and improved the process to the point that our future grandchildren will be slaves to an even greater debt.

Our politicians bribe us with our own money while fraudulently taking part of those funds to line their own pockets in the process. Entitlements and unfunded government mandates have gotten to the point that our currency is drawing global skepticism. Nations are starting to shun our debt.

I continue to pay into a system of Social Security that will be bankrupt before I retire. There currently isn't 1 US Dollar in that account. It's full of the same government IOU's that other nations are starting to shun.

I'm about to be forced into a government health care plan that I don't want as well. I'll have no choice but to put money into what will be another failed government venture. If I don't, the government will fine me. The costs of this program will be astronomical. Care will be as efficient as anything else ran by the government. (think medicare) and my politicians will find plenty of places to line their pockets again.

I didn't ask to own any banks or any auto manufacturers. The same banks that got a lifeline with taxpayer dollars are now denying taxpayers credit. They are hoarding our money to pay for the fraud that they committed to get us in this mess in the first place and they are still paying out record bonuses to employees.

If I move to another country to avoid paying for fraud of my government, I'm taxed anyway. I believe that Lybia is the only other country that does this, but I might be mistaken. In effect I'm a slave to this country's politicians that bribe under-educated voters with their own money. 

Eventually I will renounce my citizen to this country. Not because I want to, but because I have to. The ship is sinking and land is not in sight. It won't just be me. It will be the doctors that will be over-regulated in the health care plan. It will be the small business owners that can't afford more government regulation. It will be corporations that get friendlier terms from other countries. And finally it will be thousands of people just like me that realize that our government has written a check that it can't possibly cash. The government will be left with an under-educated population that still wants to be bribed with their own money after the well has run dry. 

"Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" -Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Convention, 1775

 

 

 

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#1) On November 10, 2009 at 5:06 PM, KamranatUCLA (29.10) wrote:

Tell me what has become of my rights
Am I invisible because you ignore me?
Your proclamation promised me free liberty, now
I'm tired of bein' the victim of shame
They're throwing me in a class with a bad name
I can't believe this is the land from which I came
You know I do really hate to say it
The government don't wanna see
But if Roosevelt was livin'
He wouldn't let this be, no, no

Quoted from lyrics of "they don't really care about us" by Michael Jackson

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#2) On November 10, 2009 at 5:15 PM, KamranatUCLA (29.10) wrote:

I think the U.S. of A. will break down into different states because the Federal Government has failed BIG TIME!

Texas like always will lead the pack. I hope Texas becomes independent. I hope California becomes independent. We really don't need the Federal Government.

Federal government is doing nothing but waste our money. This system (State & Federal) makes no sense anymore. 

It's like having a corporation and being double taxed. Once for Federal once for State...we don't need 2 sets of no-good, stupid, lazy, big-mouth people who empty our pockets by calling themselves "government."

I have worked for 18 years night and day and when I recenetly got laid off and called the Unemployment Office they told me "tough luck". I am not getting a penny because I was "self employed" evethough I was working for a company that designated me as independent contractor. IN addition, in those 18 years I have paid ALL MY UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE TAXES...so you can't count on this stupid government. They are just getting your money and are not doing anything but sit on their asses and talk BS.

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#3) On November 10, 2009 at 5:23 PM, prose976 (< 20) wrote:

Your preaching to the choir, my friend.

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#4) On November 10, 2009 at 5:36 PM, nottheSEC (81.34) wrote:

John F. Kennedy:

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

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#5) On November 10, 2009 at 5:37 PM, jddubya (60.66) wrote:

#2

Really sorry to hear that you can't get unemployment.  I'm a new self-employed contractor and I didn't know that there was a way for me to pay for my own unemployment unless I created an S corp or something like that (it's something where I would be on my own payroll).

what percentage of your income was paid for unemployment insurance?

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#6) On November 10, 2009 at 5:39 PM, nottheSEC (81.34) wrote:

, KamranatUCLA (29.85)I think you can fight the matter seek a labor attorney on contingency(They get paid if you win). In the very least they cannot charge you UE taxes.  

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#7) On November 10, 2009 at 5:58 PM, ItCouldbeWorse (< 20) wrote:

In regards to Where did all my rights go...it could be worse.  So this country has some problems...well welcome to the real world…every country (and person) has problems.  But I would not trade this country for any other in this era or in the past.  We have a country of laws with tolerance for all and the ability to voice our opinions without fear of retaliation or imprisonment.  Try expressing an opinion against the party line in a former Soviet country and see how long it takes for you to be granted free room and board compliments of the government...unless you are just are gifted with a bullet instead.

No the USA has problems but I'll take it and them over any other country you can name.  And give up my citizenship...I don't think so.  Travel around the world a little and observe how Customs treats people entering and leaving the country, how the rule of law is flouted, and how citizens are not respected...and contrast that behavior with this country that is still the land of the free and home of the brave.

 Of course this country has problems after all it is composed of human beings that are fallible and selfish and extreme and looking out for number one…and also kind and generous and helpful.It could be a LOT worse and in most countries it is; I for one and very glad to be a citizen of the United States of America…it’s worth fighting for (and I have and will).

 

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#8) On November 10, 2009 at 6:16 PM, ChrisGraley (30.21) wrote:

Itcouldbeworse

A fitting name for your post and I agree with you to a very big extent.

A lot of European countries are in worse shape as far as fraud and corruption, but in those countries, if you don't like it, you can move.

I've set myself up to live in Europe though, because I can mantain a decent standard of living by being a resident without being a citizen.

I've also set my citizenship up in a country that values my liberty and has a well accepted passport.

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#9) On November 10, 2009 at 8:31 PM, devoish (99.10) wrote:

kamran,

If you were designated self employed and  had unemployemnt or any deductions taken from your paycheck you were robbed and they were probably not paid into your SSI either. Call the ACLU or any union, and talk to them. You could also try ACORN, or your House Representative and eventually someone will try to help you.

ps. If the Federal Gov't breaks down, what happens to all those nukes? Does Nevada get all of them?

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#10) On November 10, 2009 at 11:03 PM, ChrisGraley (30.21) wrote:

4) On November 10, 2009 at 5:36 PM, nottheSEC (74.87) wrote:

John F. Kennedy:

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

 

That's a great post nottheSEC! I volunteered to serve my country in the military and I think I am better for it. I've been decorated for my service and believe that my country is proud of my contribution. I've fought for your right to demand health care that your grandchildren will pay for. You must feel that you have made a similar contribution to the country since you've cited such an inspiring post, so I would appreciate if you could give us just a brief explanation of your accomplishments. After all it is the pioneers like you that will lead our country into prosperity.

I sense that you are one of America's great heros like Michael Moore that is pushing us toward a more improved health care system like they have in Cuba. I can't wait for the technological improvement and waiting in line for bread and cheese! You must be so proud giving so much and asking so little.

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#11) On November 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM, ozzfan1317 (79.41) wrote:

#7) On November 10, 2009 at 5:58 PM, ItCouldbeWorse (< 20) wrote:

In regards to Where did all my rights go...it could be worse.  So this country has some problems...well welcome to the real world…every country (and person) has problems.  But I would not trade this country for any other in this era or in the past.  We have a country of laws with tolerance for all and the ability to voice our opinions without fear of retaliation or imprisonment.  Try expressing an opinion against the party line in a former Soviet country and see how long it takes for you to be granted free room and board compliments of the government...unless you are just are gifted with a bullet instead.

No the USA has problems but I'll take it and them over any other country you can name.  And give up my citizenship...I don't think so.  Travel around the world a little and observe how Customs treats people entering and leaving the country, how the rule of law is flouted, and how citizens are not respected...and contrast that behavior with this country that is still the land of the free and home of the brave.

 Of course this country has problems after all it is composed of human beings that are fallible and selfish and extreme and looking out for number one…and also kind and generous and helpful.It could be a LOT worse and in most countries it is; I for one and very glad to be a citizen of the United States of America…it’s worth fighting for (and I have and will). What He said 

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#12) On November 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM, jed71 (30.10) wrote:

Chris...

 Just curious... How in the world are you going to get your physical silver to whatever your new European location is going to be? I assume you have a better plan than sticking it in your suitcase, no?

Insuring / shipping a precious metal has got to cost a bundle....

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#13) On November 11, 2009 at 1:42 PM, RainierMan (79.75) wrote:

Dying to know where you'll be moving that is void of some type of governmental abuse. Good luck with that.

Maybe the various malcontents continually blogging about the decline of America (as if that were new) can come up with a list of the perfect countries they are going to move to after they leave this horrible place behind. 

China. Why don't you all move to China. I understand Southeast Asia is doing well. Anyone up for Vietnam? Indonesia? Which is it? Russia? How about Brazil. These are all emerging economies, so you should have no lack of choice. 

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#14) On November 11, 2009 at 1:58 PM, booyahh (< 20) wrote:

Yes, maybe you can move to Canada or Europe. But gasp they have socialized medicine there, those Maoists. So forget that.

How about Iran ? Lots of rights there. Or Pakistan. Or Saudi Arabia.

Good luck with that.

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#15) On November 11, 2009 at 2:43 PM, nottheSEC (81.34) wrote:

, ChrisGraley (99.66) #10)  Today is Veteran's day. I blogged and called for love of the country with minimal recs.Someone says they are gonna leave everybody recs.It is your right to leave but dont  say you have ever been patriotic or slink back in to the USA when times are again good. I am a conscentious objector for religious reasons so my service to the country does not inlcude military service.However that said My father, rest in peace was a decorated soldier in the Korean conflict.Two brown stars and he was drafted.No free college education for his service just a trip back home.

I  personally have spent a lifetime in civil service serving the poor sick in hopsitals or investigating and getting the bad guy who steal public funds. Also I am an ethnic minority and a liberal. It goes without saying I had to work twice as hard for 1/2 the opportunity. Yet I love this country AND UNLIKE those who bellowed with hollow words how unpatroitic is what to disagree or America love it or leave it., My ACTION and patriotism makes me stay.

James Baldwin:

I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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#16) On November 11, 2009 at 8:43 PM, ChrisGraley (30.21) wrote:

jed71  The shipping costs actually aren't as bad as you think, but when you ship it, you need someone on the other end that you trust to recieve it. Also, It would surely draw a lot of interest from the government and they may want to hang on to it for a while to investigate. They easiest thing to do is to sell it here over several days and buy it over there at the same time. I'll have to pay transaction fees, but It's a small price to pay for the security.

MichaelinWA  Campion D'Italia, I'll be living there as a resident, not as a citizen. It is an Italian enclave in Swiss territory with a big casino that makes Italy a lot of money. That means that if the citizens there wanted to break away from Italy, they would literally have to invade Switzerland to stop them. To keep the citizens happy, Italy leaves them alone pretty much and provides some generous tax perks. I also have a list of 6 other places to move to if that changes. Citizenship is easy, as most countries leave you alone if you don't actually live there.

booyahh  I'll have an expatriot insurance policy which will cover me anywhere in the world.

nottheSEC Thanks to your father and anyone else that served.

Finally I'd like to say that I really don't want to renounce. I'm forced to. I'll stay till the last minute, but my plan is pretty much in place now. Staying amounts to staying in a burning building due to loyalty.  It doesn't matter who is in office, we still have unfunded government spending to the point that it now can't be reversed. Even if we did try to reverse it, we couldn't get enough taxes from a population that is laden in debt itself. If we would have concentrated on true proserity instead of unfunded handouts this wouldn't have been a problem. Any of you that have children should seriously consider the impact of not having a plan. When the economy does tank it will be worse than the great depression. The survival of you or your children will not be guaranteed. I don't know when it will happen, but it will happen in at least my lifetime and the current goverment policy of "print and spend" is speeding things up.

 

 

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#17) On November 11, 2009 at 11:58 PM, KamranatUCLA (29.10) wrote:

# 2: I did have a S corp when I had my clothing company, still I didn't get 1 penny from unemployment insurance

#6: The company I worked for is a huge company with tons of lawyers. They were even on my back when I said bad stuff about them on these blogs. They read these blogs. I give you a hint though, they recently got into S$P 500 instead of GM.

#9: Thanks for your advice, but see above.

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