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Where will the Canadians go for Health Care now? John Stossel & 20/20 Take On Health Care Reform



August 04, 2009 – Comments (3) | RELATED TICKERS: GS

John Stossel & 20/20 Take On Health Care Reform - President Obama's Proposed Health Care. Say What? Say What? John Stossel. ABC. Health Care Reform. 20-20

MY COMMENT: You had better find a YOUNG Family doctor now, who will keep you as a patient. You may not be able to find one later. 

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#1) On August 04, 2009 at 4:05 PM, tengrandchicago (< 20) wrote:

As a person who was raised in Canada but now lives in the United States, I've experienced both healthcare systems.  There are pros/cons to both systems.  In Canada, a major medical procedure will not wipe me out financially.  I have that safety net.  However, the system is inefficient and you take on wait times and delays for non-life threatening procedures.   There are not enough beds for heaven's sake at some hospitals.

 In the US, I have to pay serious medical premiums, but the service is quick, it's efficient, and I get access to some of the best doctors around (major cities).  A major medical surgery could wipe me out financially, but I'm willing to take that risk and work down here.

 You can't have it both ways. Canada would go a long way if they issued co-pays for your typical family medical visit. 

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#2) On August 04, 2009 at 4:24 PM, devoish (65.60) wrote:

I replied to this video he first time it was posted. Thank you for offering me a second chance.

john stossel might be on TV  but he did less homework than we have done here on CAPS. Sometimes I think that is how you get on TV.

His first claim "when gov  takes charge, innovation stops" we pretty much found unsupported here, and much more than likely the reverse is true. He beats the idea to death later on in the video, but he is still wrong.

The nice lady who makes the claim that "the only way we can get costs down under Gov't care is to control the amount of money we spend on healthcare" is also mistaken. It could be possible to control the costs of "paying" for private insurance whose overhead is 30% as compared to medicares 3%.

Check Stossels "facts". They are suspect. Be careful of the mixing of "healthcare" with "health insurance". The issue in the USA is affordability, accessability and quality. In Canada they can improve wait times (talk about an over blown story) and quality by raising affordability to 55% of what we pay.

His analogy to not waiting at the "privately run" veterinarian system is an appropriate comparison to our "private insurer" model. I wonder what percentage of Canadian dogs do not get mri's, but instead get left out of the system and get the needle.

He points out that Canadians come here for medical care, we do not go there. We passed a law that says our citizens cannot go to Canada to buy drugs, so that claim is debatable also.

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#3) On August 05, 2009 at 12:03 PM, kdakota630 (28.81) wrote:

What they reported about the waiting is absolutely true, although I have never waiting anything close to an average 23 hours like they claimed.

Also true is what they said about trying to get a family doctor.  I had one before I moved to my current city, but I found the guy to be absolutely useless so I tried finding another family doctor.  Luckily because I visited one guy years before, I was classified as a patient of his.  Otherwise I'd have been turned away by him, and there were no other family doctors taking patients in the city.

When I moved, luckily a new doctor opened a clinic across from my store and I got in with him as my family doctor, otherwise I'd have been out of luck.  He's no longer taking new patients.  I'm sure there have been others since then, but you'll have to look hard to find them.

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