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Where's George Bush on Freedom and Democracy?



June 04, 2007 – Comments (3)

Nowhere near Pakistan, of course.

As with previous U.S. administrations, tyranny and repression are just fine with Shrubya, so long as it's his brand of tyranny and repression.

Of course, that works... Until it doesn't.

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#1) On June 06, 2007 at 8:44 AM, Astronomer37 (< 20) wrote:

Curious that you should ask where President Bush, of all people, stands on freedom and democracy. If not for Bush’s “phony” war in the Middle East, Iraq and Afghanistan would not have democratically elected governments today. It’s also doubtful that Saudi Arabia and the West Bank would have held their first-ever elections in 2005, or that Kuwait would have finally allowed women to vote in that same year, or that Lebanon would have kicked out its Syrian occupiers.

My memory is long enough to recall hearing war opponents in 2002 claiming that the Middle East “wasn’t ready for democracy.” Bush thought otherwise – apparently you do too. 

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#2) On June 07, 2007 at 9:31 AM, TMFBent (99.24) wrote:

Are you seriously trying to claim that what exists in Saudi Arabia is anything like a democracy? Or that that's what they've got in the West Bank? Or Iraq? Elections do not equal democracy. Ask Africa.

Syria wrote its own ticket out of Lebanon by letting its thugs go forward with some poorly-planned assasinations. It wasn't the U.S. that pushed them out. And to pretend that its the threat of U.S. intervention is ludicrous and flies in the face of the reality that Iraq has proven to the despots over there that this country cannot impose its will on a country. Why do you think Iran is thumbing its nose as the world? It's because the Iranians know we can't do anything, and won't.

The bigger point, aside from Bush's bumbling war that has now exceeded the time it took us to defeat the Axis, is that democracies don't work when they're subject to rule by the mob. But they also don't work when dictators like Bush's man in Pakistan try to turn from "benevolent" dictators to lifelong strongmen.

This is something Bush doesn't understand, possibly because he lacks the mental capacity, possibly because he chooses to surround himself with a cadre of short-sighted yes-men who pretend that elections=freedom.


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#3) On June 07, 2007 at 12:50 PM, Astronomer37 (< 20) wrote:

To expect the West Bank, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq to have 100% perfect, U.S.-style democratic governments after only a few years is rather unreasonable. Heck, democracy isn’t even perfect here in America. But a little democracy, with gradual improvements over time, is better than none at all.

Remember, our democracy started off with only a few land-owning white men being allowed to vote. That was the far-from-ideal beginning that led to a much better (still not perfect) present situation.

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