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Why Apple is in worse shape then it thinks

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July 24, 2010 – Comments (46) | RELATED TICKERS: AAPL , MSFT , HPQ

Over the past few years, there seems to be an AAPL craze going on. People camping outside stores to be first in line for the new Iphone, and continuous rave reviews about every product they release. With about 5 million different Ipods that are available when you walk in the store and a new iphone every year it is amazing that apple doesn't have a license to print money. However, despite the success of Apple and the rapid PPS rise every quarter there are several problems that most don't take into account. 

Lets start with the Macs

A majority of the apple uses love their Mac for its sleek and stylish design. Yet it maintains a simplistic functionality. When we take a deeper look into the mac we find even their basic model, the Mac Book, which is priced at $999, only costs about 400 dollars to buy if you purchased the parts online. Although, most Mac users in general aren't as tech Savy as PC users and blame a majority of problems on the computer itself even when they are mostly caused by the user of said device. Which brings me to my next point. Apple makes outrageous claims about macs being one of the safest computers in the world, and how unlikely it is for your computer to become infected. Yet if you take a look at mac's market share in the world, it is a measly 3.6%. Taking this statistic into account, which most Mac users wont, a simple conclusion arises. Who in their right mind would code virus's, malware, anything for a mac? No one. So for Steve Jobs to claim the apple is safe because it is more advanced is puffery. When you really get down to what a mac can do it is clear that the list is short and bitter. Unless you are using photo-shop on what most likely is a 4 thousand dollar IMac for your job there really is not much of a reason to own one. Of course, you can always load up Imovie to edit a film you put together and create "special effects" that appear as if they were created by a first grader 30 years ago. Don't even get me started on video games. Over 1.52 billion dollars raked in every month by the industry and all Apple can come up with is Lego Island adventure and Hello Kitty. However, a recent update allows Mac users to play the sleeping giant of video games, Counter-Strike Source, a first person shooter that actually requires skill, unlike a certain game made by Activision, Modern Warfare 2. A huge victory for mac users worldwide. 5 games total on the Mac list now (worth buying). Although Counterstrike was a step in the right direction, Apple is decades behind on coding for the sector. So what is the bright side about Macs? They are simple and easy to understand, even for the most basic user. Don't expect them to enter the work world anytime soon. So when your writing up your quarterly earnings on your new "fancy" Mac and then email it to your colleagues who click on open attachment and it doesn't work; remember that your the only person in the world who uses it. Oh yea, when you get home and open the box to a beautifully designed exterior body protecting internal pieces that are worth about 50% of the price you paid for; you might want to remember to download a new internet browser, Safari was recently ranked the most unsafe browser to use.

 

Onto the Iphone(s)

No one can deny that the apple has set the benchmark for smart phones with the release of the first Iphone. But when it comes down to the nuts and bolts, is it really that better then its competitor? No. I own an Iphone 4 and I must say the display is clear, crisp, and simply gorgeous. So when I realized my Iphone was dropping calls left and right, I decided to make a call to support, yet you can't use the Iphone to call for when the line starts ringing and a human picks up on the other side, a big CALL FAILED sign appears on the screen! When the Bumper was released the difference was quite clear and those 5 bars that always seemed to diminish when the phone was being held faded away. Of course, apple now offers the Bumper for free, via app download. Only problem is, it takes about 3-10 weeks just to get one. What are they doing, performing clinical tests to make sure they actually work, ITS RUBBER, not magic! Despite the fact the phone works now, it is rather ugly, and you'd have to be absolutely bonkers to make the case in such a design. Even though less then 1% of all Iphone 4 owners have returned the phone, Steve Jobs decided to show his true colors, which is basically just arrogance with arrogance in the middle. "Don't hold it that way" When I found out that I didn't know how to hold a cell phone correctly I was shocked! I tried holding it upside down but even that didnt work! So as I went to the streets and tried to unlock the mystery of how to hold a cellular mobile device correctly, I stumbled upon the ultimate truth. Steve Jobs is an arrogant moron and despite popular belief, he isn't made of great ideas, only stupid comments. The world realized how dumb his claim was, probably not mac users though, and Jobs changed his statement stating it was a software issues, and of course it was soon proved to not be the case. So when Steve jobs admitted to the Iphone having a problem it was 28 weeks later all over again. During his press conference he took multiple phones and demonstrated how they all lose reception if you hold them as a normal person would. What he didn't state was the smart phones used were about 3 years old.  Now that is management you can trust! And with HTC smart phones on the rise, Apple can't keep making big mistakes like this. 

Look I bought an Ipod!

Congratulations, My Zune has an HD display a 64gb HDD, goes on the radio, connects to the internet and can visit Facebook, twitter, or myspace with one tap of a finger.  Apple makes about a bajillion different Ipods which are all quite lovely yet are behind the curve. Remember when all songs on itunes were 99 cents and not 1.29. My Zune sure doesn't. I can download an unlimited amount of songs for just 14.99 per month. Not only does Zune have an advanced marketplace that could give Itunes a run for its money, you can download the whole frigg'n Zune marketplace and only pay 15 bucks, cancel your subscription and keep the songs! Don't worry about itunes purchases not being synced to your Zune, because they do. Not only is the Zune cheaper to have, it is better designed and you don't have to buy a more expensive model like an ipod touch to have a beautiful display for each model has the same software.  

 

The Ipad 

First of all, what "genius" came up with that name? If you own an Ipod touch you might not want ton get an ipad, why? Because you basically have one, its called an ipod touch.  For the Ipad it doesn't do anything that your Ipod touch can't easily do.  Besides the fact that the mini Ipad already exists (ipod touch) it just can't replace the laptop, as Apple would like it to. Want a small Laptop? Buy a Netbook, the thing is so small it could probably fit in your pocket! Who the hell would even want to work on with the ipad?  Besides watching the newest movies to steal meaningful yet abstract quotes for your next big meeting it can't really do anything. To even consider turning your ipad into a laptop you need to buy a stand, and then a keyboard. Sure seems like a terrible deal for something that is a joke. When Steve jobs went on stage to talk about the newly released Ipad and its "amazing features" it made me laugh. He explained over, and over, and over, and over, and yes over again how amazing the internet browsing experience was. Claiming you can zoom in and zoom out stretch the page and scroll up and down. Yea Steve, its called a computer, you make some remember? It can do the exact same thing, just a lot faster. Oh yea did Mr.Jobs mention he doesn't believe in Adobe flash? Nice one Jobs, you are about the only person in the world that doesn't use it. So when you buy the newest apple product and try to view something that requires flash, turn back! RUN! You won't make it out alive for the all apple products have a self destruct feature that makes the product explode if you disobey Mr.jobs and his wishes.

 As much as I hate how over hyped ever apple product is, I cant deny the fact that they have brainwashed the public and make gazillions in doing so.  

46 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On July 24, 2010 at 11:52 PM, TMFBabo (100.00) wrote:

29 recs in 6 minutes? hmm...

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#2) On July 25, 2010 at 12:11 AM, MichaelKnows (57.37) wrote:

I'm actually quite surprised myself, mainly considering the fact I didn't edit this as I would have liked. However I will say a lot of people despise the fact Apple thinks it is very high and mighty in the tech world. Congrats on your 100.00 caps rating :/ peaked at 94 and its been down hill ever since.

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#3) On July 25, 2010 at 12:11 AM, MichaelKnows (57.37) wrote:

I'm actually quite surprised myself, mainly considering the fact I didn't edit this as I would have liked. However I will say a lot of people despise the fact Apple thinks it is very high and mighty in the tech world. Congrats on your 100.00 caps rating :/ peaked at 94 and its been down hill ever since.

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#4) On July 25, 2010 at 12:15 AM, RVAspeculator (96.02) wrote:

62 recs in 25 minutes.   On Saturday night.

My blog about this still takes the cake though...  I believe I had over 1000 before the fool knocked it down.

Frankly I am surpised this is not happening more often with the rec system the way it is.

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#5) On July 25, 2010 at 12:21 AM, tomlongrpv (88.12) wrote:

Well I will add mine as a real recommendation.  I would also comment that you assume a lot more technical savvy on the part of the public than I think most people (like myself) have.  Apple makes a different assumption about the technical savvy of most people and their assumption seems to have served them pretty well so I think I will keep my stock for now.

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#6) On July 25, 2010 at 12:37 AM, MichaelKnows (57.37) wrote:

"Frankly I am surpised this is not happening more often with the rec system the way it is."

 

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#7) On July 25, 2010 at 12:43 AM, TMFBabo (100.00) wrote:

MichaelKnows, I enjoyed your blog and did give it a rec.  However, someone (who probably also dislikes Apple) has been pumping the recs up artificially.  I made mention because 29 recs in 6 minutes on Saturday night is absurd. 

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#8) On July 25, 2010 at 1:00 AM, MichaelKnows (57.37) wrote:

I'm glad you enjoyed it, I appreciate that.  One of my articles only has four and was more important then this. imo, so this is pretty weird haha. 

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#9) On July 25, 2010 at 10:18 AM, j238nyc (< 20) wrote:

The opinion / fact ratio of this article is unusually high.  

"...you can download the whole frigg'n Zune marketplace and only pay 15 bucks, cancel your subscription and keep the songs!"

If you did any checking, you'd know that a Zune subscription allows users to download and keep ten songs each month, not the whole marketplace as you stated.

More good news for Apple:  Target stored have dropped the Zune product line. 

I believe if you'd asked them (which you didn't), you'd find out that most Mac users do know that few virus writers target Macs due to their market share.

Sure Apple has plenty of over-enthusiastic fans.  Don't forget they've earned that due to the quality of their innovative products.  

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#10) On July 25, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Bludgeoner (99.04) wrote:

Why Apple is in worse shape THAN it thinks.

I know, you can't edit posts after you post them.

I have a Mac and a Sony Vaio running Windows and Linux.

I prefer Mac.  Windows has a few advantages over Mac and so does Linux.  But when it all comes down to it, I pick up my mac more often the I do my Sony.

I also have an iPhone - I think that, while Apple was extremely innovative and disruptive with this product, hand-set makers are continually leap frogging over one another based on previously developed technology. And who cares about patent suits?  By the time a patent suit is heard, the technology will be obsolete.  Technology moves faster that our legal system.  (I know that last part has nothing to do with the discussion; I just thought I'd throw it out there.) 

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#11) On July 25, 2010 at 11:26 AM, tomlongrpv (88.12) wrote:

Bludgeoner

I think MichaelKnows may have meant "Apple is in worse shape comma THEN it thinks," meaning that is responds when things deteriorate.   OK I am just kidding, but that might have been a good pitch to make.

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#12) On July 25, 2010 at 12:12 PM, cmm3 (51.06) wrote:

Um, Mac OS X uses a *nix-type filesystem, which helps it not be able to get viruses. Completely different architecture that would take books to explain.

I suggest looking into things more carefully before posting such claims. 

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#13) On July 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Bludgeoner (99.04) wrote:

that's a good one tom!!

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#14) On July 25, 2010 at 1:36 PM, ajm101 (42.90) wrote:

Nice post.  I do think that the margins thing is the big kicker.  I disagree on tech side, though.  I have worked in several development groups now where MacBook Pros were the standard workstation.  I personally used one for years, though I spend most of the time ssh'ed to a RHEL4 workstation.  I would probably have one now except I need a x86_64 system.

What I don't like about Apple the company

 * the closed platform business model, and frankly the whole idea of an app store vs the previous openness of the WWW.

 * overpriced

 * difficult to run on a hypervisor

What I don't like about AAPL the stock

 * market yawned on last quarter

 * their exponential tech improvement curve seems to be hitting a limit.  The iPad is a good example (their superb marketing aside, it is not the first tablet computer and - like you said - doesn't offer much beyond the iPod touch), and the iPhone 4 is nice but not as big an incremental improvement over previous generations

 * this is a gut feeling, but their marketing feels like it's trying a little harder.   Neither Facetime nor the iPad are revolutionary, but they're being sold hard.  Maybe Apple can make a market where the public has been disinterested before, maybe not.

 * a high quality competitor in Google/HTC that is not concerned about margins (at least on hardware, Google is an advertising company and wants to control the more valuable mobile market)

 

...anyway, Apple's a great company that has done a lot of good in smartphones and I'm very very very happy that Microsoft has a real competitor to put the scare of continued existence into them (Vista was an abomination... simply inconceivable that they released that product.  Windows 7 isn't great).  But you made some great points, thanks for the post.

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#15) On July 25, 2010 at 1:39 PM, MichaelKnows (57.37) wrote:

"...you can download the whole frigg'n Zune marketplace and only pay 15 bucks, cancel your subscription and keep the songs!"

"If you did any checking, you'd know that a Zune subscription allows users to download and keep ten songs each month, not the whole marketplace as you stated."

 Well I use Zune Marketplace and it is called moving the songs to an external Hard drive.... So yea, you can keep all the songs you want, as long as you aren't an idiot. 

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#16) On July 25, 2010 at 2:39 PM, j238nyc (< 20) wrote:

@MichaelKnows, I don't know anyone with a Zune so let me ask, once you copy those songs outside of your Zune library & cancel your subscription, will they still be playable for the long term, or will you be stopped by DRM?  

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#17) On July 25, 2010 at 2:45 PM, MichaelKnows (57.37) wrote:

@i238nyc Download all the songs you want, put them on a another device, you don't even really need a zune for zune music. If you use a format converter you can put them on your ipod. I use Zune Marketplace because it is cheaper then using Itunes. I download around 20-30 songs per month I save around 50%

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#18) On July 25, 2010 at 5:39 PM, j238nyc (< 20) wrote:

So you're saying that Microsoft's subscription service with weak DRM gives Zune a competitive advantage over iPod. 

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#19) On July 25, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Turfscape (36.47) wrote:

You're making a business argument on product technicals? If you spent even 5 minutes studying business history, you'd know that the two don't correlate AT ALL.

Apple Bears continually make the argument that Apple products are not the most technically advanced ever in the whole wide world...and, therefore, the company will come crashing down with such a resounding thud that the market will take decades to recover.

Gather round, Bears, and listen really closely...that's not Apple's business model! Apple has succeeded by providing a first-class user experience: Easy, intuitive, pre-set to do the things the consumer wants, and really sharp looking (remember when your television and stereo equipment was well-designed furniture?). People LIKE that sort of thing. People don't LIKE spending time and effort (regardless of how much or how little) to get their computer to just they way they want it...they want it like that out of the box. AND people like knowing that there is a unified store that they can go to for accessories, questions, repairs or upgrades, and more devices or computers. Apple found the simple solution: give people what they want! Don't force people to want what you give them (MSFT business model).

Honestly, your post boils down to: "I don't like Apple, so it should fail!" It's sour grapes, and nothing more.

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#20) On July 25, 2010 at 11:24 PM, SockMarket (97.77) wrote:

100 recs in 23 hrs. and 2 100+ recced posts in anyone's first 3 blogs, especially if they are not from an allstar = pumping. I don't know how else to read it. Regardless it is a good piece and I gave it one real rec.

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#21) On July 25, 2010 at 11:29 PM, SockMarket (97.77) wrote:

btw, I am not pointing any fingers or saying that this is a bad blog, however I do suspect somebody, somewhere is pumping these blogs. it just doesn't seem normal.

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#22) On July 26, 2010 at 12:19 AM, mitchxtoledo (< 20) wrote:

On the computer aspect:
Because Macs are rarer, maybe due to their being more expensive and general lack of a solid video game base, they are much safer. The OS is less RAM-consuming because it has far fewer background processes running, and accesses resources as needed (I only understand the basics of OS architecture). They are formidable machines because the OS utilizes the hardware more efficiently and effectively, a good reason they're top choice for all sorts of designing professionals. In terms of document compatibility, there is no difference: QuickTime is just as lacking as Windows Media Player when first loaded, and I make up for both by using VLC. On top of this, OS X has a standard-issue utility that allows you to, in about five clicks, partition your hard disk (without reformatting, something Windows-based computers cannot do (maybe under Vista or 7 they can, not something I've explored yet)) and effortlessly install a second operating system, and then re-partition again for a third. Or, you can use the computer to just run Windows if you want. This allows an incredible amount of versatility and solves most compatibility problems. On top of that, there are very efficient and smooth Windows emulators to install in OS X that are able to utilize most of the computer's hardware, rendering compatibility issues a nearly dead issue. Not to mention, with the right tweaking, any computer guy can run a Windows-based program with an emulation protocol that essentially makes *.exe files into usable applications. Anti-Applites don't know much about any of this, however, since they haven't actually used OS X for longer than an hour, during which they got frustrated over something asinine or menial (the constant whining reference to a one-button mouse). If there was any kind of issue, it could have been solved quite easily, as all of my problems have been. I pity those poor souls if they ever have to use Linux some day (I love Linux).
Anyway, the bottom line is exactly that: the bottom line. It's a different kind of a computer, much the same way a Benz is different from a BMW, and they can charge a higher price because the machines are sleeker, nicer looking, well-constructed, quieter, and generally very reliable. Not to mention, the customer service is pretty excellent. Want to complain about how they're assuming the average user is not tech savvy? Think about how easy any of your other devices are that you don't have to tweak apart from adjusting color, wallpaper, ringtone, &c. The average user doesn't edit their registry or tweak their startup or replace hardware until it's dead or near-dead. If they brought up a task manager they'd crap themselves and have a panic attack. Not to mention, OS X isn't a sh*t magnet for adware and spyware that any unsuspecting user can get burdened with, so you don't need to be running any anti-malware or anti-spyware.

 On the iPhone:

Smart phones are a waste to begin with, and this one is in particular. Not because of this retardedly over-hyped signal-losing problem, but because AT&T blows. Other than that, just as an iTouch, they're very versatile little machines. I think comparing the iPhone to an HTC Evo is a waste of time because they're not made to do the same things or made for the same people. If you are a fan of Apple, you'll buy an iPhone, and if you're anti-Apple you'll go someplace else.

On the iPod:
You can easily download music outside of iTunes to throw on the iPod. The new ones are pieces of crap that die after only a couple of drops. I'm still amazed people buy these things when other ones are so much easier to load things on. However, I've messed around with plenty of MP3 players and the iPod is by far the easiest to use and has the least amount of buttons.

On the iPad:
The iPad is a lot of fun, and its appeal is very obvious if you don't look at the strict uselessness of it (since most of the technological things you possess are completely useless anyway and you only have them for fun or curiosity). It's an alternative to a netbook if you don't mind not being able to multitask or have a basic keyboard, but netbooks can hardly multitask anyway with the resource-heavy OSes and Anti-viral software being thrown on them, and the keyboards are significantly smaller. The iPad is, like Apple's computers, sleek, stylish, pretty reliable, and won't burn your lap if you're trying to do something on it (netbooks can get pretty hot unless you buy some kind of support for them, which about doubles the mass of things you have to carry).

They've formed a good product base with their generally idiot-proof ease of use and visual appeal. I'm tired of the wasteful hateful invective about Apple. They're a company with a bottom line, they don't brainwash but they have a good appeal. They sell uselessly nice things that people want and buy. They're not making our country stupid, Fox News is doing that. They're not raping your children, that's the Catholic church's job. They're not zeroing out your bank accounts, that's the financial industry's job. They're not dropping your stock prices, that's the fault of the Wall Street jerks. They're not raising gas prices, that's OPEC's fault. They're not poisoning your children's toys, that's China's fault. I can keep going with this pointing out that this company is not worth your hatred, but I think six examples is enough. Look at me, turning this all political. 

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#23) On July 26, 2010 at 1:49 AM, ajm101 (42.90) wrote:

Oh god, please don't let this place turn into techcrunch.

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#24) On July 26, 2010 at 2:59 AM, ConstableOdo (< 20) wrote:

People buy Apple products mainly because they like them.  They're willing to pay a premium price because they perceive they're getting their money's worth.  That's why there are so many loyal Apple consumers.  No consumer is forced to buy Macs, iPhones, iPods or iPads.  The consumers go into the Apple retail stores, play with them for a while and then buy them.  It's called consumers' choice.  Microsoft already has 95% desktop share and you're upset because a few people are buying Macs because they're not like the rest of the MicroSheeples.  Too bad, huh?  If Apple is in bad shape, then I don't know what company is in good shape.  Dell?  HP?  Nokia? Motorola?  Microsoft, possibly.  Any company can fail, but I think Apple has at least a couple of good years left in it despite  your misgivings.  I'm sure you don't own your own company, so I really don't need to put any stock in your opinion about Apple failing.

Good, you don't like Apple, then don't buy Apple.  However, let the rest of us buy whatever we want or can afford.  I'm a long-term Apple investor so I'm going to back Apple fully.

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#25) On July 26, 2010 at 3:37 AM, MichaelKnows (57.37) wrote:

@constableodo I believe you misinterpreted the article. I do like apple. However, I believe Steve jobs is extremely arrogant and pushes his products to do things that they really aren't men't or able to do. For example, the ipad is supposed to be an alternative for laptops but it lacks a majority of the features a laptop haves. And the mere fact that he said to the public: "don't hold it that way" was an insult. I own an iphone 4 and it is terrible for a company to treat a customer that way. 

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#26) On July 26, 2010 at 10:13 AM, mrwplay (< 20) wrote:

Hmmm! well I definately would NOT describe myself as a Apple Fanboi ..........BUT ........ This article is lazy .... very very lazy indeed. Such obvious regurgitated rubbish masquerading as criticism and analysis. Added to that, it has no balance or market context. If you are going to try and inform us about issues with Apple's approach or products atleast have something new to say otherwise you come across as some saddo who gets off on trying to show that they are somehow intellectually superior in some way......Very lazy indeed !!! Could do better (1/10)

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#27) On July 26, 2010 at 10:25 AM, wildguydujour (< 20) wrote:

Customers churn from one company to another, but Apple has created an ecosystem with very high customer satisfaction and very low churn.  That makes for a very stick value preposition.  By linking all of its major products (iPhone, iPad, iTunes Store, Mac line), it simply needs to wait to natural churn to send customers its way, the natural stickiness will keep them there, and revenue just keeps climbing.

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#28) On July 26, 2010 at 11:01 AM, TheSavageNation (< 20) wrote:

Wow, some serious Apple hate from a fool. Guess you're one of the Microsoft worshipping geeks who DIDN'T buy Apple at $4 when Steve came back. Loser

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#29) On July 26, 2010 at 11:04 AM, symie5 (95.73) wrote:

Also please note the difference between "then" and "than".  It's hard for me to take you seriously with simple grammar errors in the title.  Oof...

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#30) On July 26, 2010 at 11:22 AM, schrrm8 (< 20) wrote:

I'd advise not bashing one of the best performing war game lines in the history of video games.   

The only reason you say MW2 requires no skill is because you get constantly killed by pros like me....

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#31) On July 26, 2010 at 2:59 PM, aggiewes (< 20) wrote:

good article

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#32) On July 26, 2010 at 4:49 PM, nate12680 (< 20) wrote:

It takes 45 seconds to start and 15 seconds to shut down a macbook. It takes a few minuites for a pc laptop. Thats about 10 hours a year saved using a macbook if used daily. How much is your, or your companies time worth? Say you make 50$/hour. You save 1000$ in time in 2 years.

For all the random spyware/malware/etc programs you can expect 50$/year cost on pc and have to update constantly (taking time). And it will run slower. Over the years that adds up.

Another time/money waste, having to go out and buy a new laptop to support the new os7. Apples new os supports everything built in that 999 macbook and the new os upgrades are cheaper for the full version and they actually make the older macbook run better where os7 slow down older laptops. costing time, costing money.

Resale value stays at a premium with the macbooks. After two years one can recoupe at 500 to 750 on that 999$ macbook. How much is your pc laptop worth after 2 years?

So as you can see, total cost of ownership is far less with a macbook than a pc laptop.

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#33) On July 26, 2010 at 5:01 PM, nate12680 (< 20) wrote:

And your comments about having different models that overlap. Its called a marketing mix everybody does it. And apples got me. I started with a touch back in the day in college and loved its quality experience, then had to get the 3g and felt the same way, sold the touch of course, then had to get the macbook and yes the quality of the experience is better over time with a macbook. By the time I get done with pc laptops i want to throw them off the bridge and they are basically worthless and ove spent countless hours cleaning them up. With the apple I just want more.

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#34) On July 26, 2010 at 5:38 PM, MichaelKnows (57.37) wrote:

@nate12680 you really don't have any idea what you are talking about. 

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#35) On July 26, 2010 at 5:55 PM, heyitsgenewilder (< 20) wrote:

@MichaelKnows: this last comment is exactly the kind of nuanced and specific analysis that I have come to expect from the Fool site.  Please, keep it up.

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#36) On July 27, 2010 at 12:25 AM, alabeaty (< 20) wrote:

@turfscape:  Nicely said. Even those of us who are somewhat technical don't want to spend hours setting up things. We like it to just work!

That said, I think Apple is missing out on some big revenue by it's exclusiveness with AT&T.  

Who thinks branching out to other carriers is the next step in the business plan?

VZ contract up... or should I switch to AT&T? 

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#37) On July 27, 2010 at 12:36 AM, MichaelKnows (57.37) wrote:

@heyitsgenewilder I would almost take you seriously, then I realize you probably don't make any money investing...

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#38) On July 27, 2010 at 10:29 AM, beetlebug62 (< 20) wrote:

"Yet it maintains a simplistic functionality"

What is that supposed to mean?

 " Although, most Mac users in general aren't as tech Savy as PC users"

Oh, I see that's what you mean. This is utter rubbish. Where has there ever been a study showing Mac users "in general" aren't as tech "Savy" (sic) as PC users? This is a figment of your imagination. 

 "blame a majority of problems on the computer itself even when they are mostly caused by the user of said device"

And how do you know this? What studies have shown this? Where are your facts?

 Even if this were true, doesn't your own hypothesis prove that there is a market for products that just work? Not everyone wants to be a Geek Squad employee.

 "Who in their right mind would code virus's, malware, anything for a mac?"

When the Mac had even less marketshare back in the OS9 days, it had more viruses. That would put the lie to your premise.

 "So for Steve Jobs to claim the apple is safe because it is more advanced is puffery"

Not as "puffery" as your post so far. Mac OS X is a certified version of UNIX. It is more safe and more advanced right out of the box.

"When you really get down to what a mac can do it is clear that the list is short and bitter."

Your comment is patently false.Since Macs can run both Windows and Linux in addition to the Mac OS, it can run virtually every app out there. That's more OSes and apps than Windows can run. 

 "So when your writing up your quarterly earnings on your new "fancy" Mac and then email it to your colleagues who click on open attachment and it doesn't work; remember that your the only person in the world who uses it."

Utter FUD. Noone should send out email attachments in their native format that can be edited. They should be sent out in an interoperable format like PDF. Did you know that PDF is built into the Mac OS? No need for Adobe. 

"you might want to remember to download a new internet browser, Safari was recently ranked the most unsafe browser to use."

By whom? HOW is it "unsafe"? If there are no viruses so far on Macs, then how is Safari the most "unsafe" browser? Increasing numbers of browsers are being built on top of WebKit, the rendering engine that powers Safari. Virtually all of the mobile browsers are built upon WebKit. You do know who developed WebKit right? Chrome, and Android are built on WebKit. Safari desktop and Safari mobile are built on WebKit. Adobe AIR is built on WebKit. Symbian's S60 is built on WebKit. Blackberry's new browser is built on WebKit, and many, many more.

I've only looked at your first  section on the Mac. It's rife with errors and false suppositions. I can only shudder to think of all the other mistakes.

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#39) On July 27, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Turfscape (36.47) wrote:

MichaelKnows wrote:
"@heyitsgenewilder I would almost take you seriously, then I realize you probably don't make any money investing..."

Be better than that...

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#40) On July 27, 2010 at 12:01 PM, TheFactChecker (< 20) wrote:

I am disappointed in The Motley Fool for posting this rubbish.  The analysis is faulty, the writing is sub-par and the vitriol of author is embarrassing.  One suspects the author of having missed the opportunity to buy Apple at $80 and wishing the stock would come down again.  It won't.  Look for Apple to reach $400 in the next few months.

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#41) On July 27, 2010 at 1:32 PM, ajm101 (42.90) wrote:

@TheFactChecker

THE MOTLEY FOOL DOES NOT POST "THIS RUBBISH", IT IS A BLOG POST POSTED BY AN CAPS MEMBER STATING THEIR OWN OPINION WITH NO EDITORIAL DIRECTION FROM THE MOTLEY FOOL.

Sorry for my breach of netiquette, but what you wrote what so outstandingly ignorant I felt it was warranted.   Considering you probably just created an account in order to reply to this post (you have no picks, no blog posts), you should probably learn something about the community before posting your own rubbish.

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#42) On July 28, 2010 at 3:14 AM, TheFactChecker (< 20) wrote:

I stand by my remark.  The fact that the Motley Fool allows such numbing pseudo-analysis from the all-knowing MichaelKnows along with your witless ALL IN CAPS rejoinder makes me question their judgement.  Your apology for your breach in netiquette is not accepted or acceptable.

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#43) On July 28, 2010 at 9:12 AM, USNHR (98.66) wrote:

Stand by your remark all you want... that doesn't make your opinion any more logical. Any open site will have people that don't conform to the way that you believe things should be done. This is called diversity, and is one of the things that makes the Motley Fool great. Unfortuneately it is also one of the things that could lead to its downfall, if people don't post responsibly.

The fact that the Motley Fool allows such numbing pseudo-analysis from the all-knowing MichaelKnows along with your witless ALL IN CAPS rejoinder makes me question their judgement.

I suppose we can throw your remaks in here with this statement, and mine too. As a matter of fact... what should really be done here is to have a Blog Czar appointed by the Obama administration to oversee all Blogs posted on a daily basis and anything that has any negativity in it at all, be it economic, political, social, or any other category should not be allowed to be posted. We will only be allowed to regurgitate what is put out by the mainstream media, not including Fox news, since we all know they are anarchist's and trying to steer the Tea Party into extreame plots to over throw the government and destroy the constitution. They don't want to do their patriotic duty and pay massivie taxes to support those who "have not".

 Lets see, where was I? Oh yes...

 Your apology for your breach in netiquette is not accepted or acceptable.

AJM, despite "TheFactChecker"s total lack of respect for an open blog, I will accept your apology. Your point is well taken.

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#44) On July 28, 2010 at 11:17 AM, ajm101 (42.90) wrote:

USNHR - It will be tough, but I will try to get over the loss of TheFactChecker's respect.  I certainly hope that he doesn't LEAVE CAPS FOREVER AND NEVER COMES BACK because of my insensitive use of capital letters.  Thank you for your support in this tough time.

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#46) On July 01, 2011 at 11:44 PM, ShrikeTheFoolish (35.40) wrote:

One year later this is still one of the worst articles I've ever read on The Motley Fool. Glad to see it's still being pumped, though.  

I mean aside from all the biased statements in the original post, along with virtually zero supporting facts outside of a "My Dad can beat up your Dad" and "Come on, I said it so it must be true" kind of mentality by the author, it's nice to see that the pumping is still consistent.

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