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7/23/2008 4:03 PM

Ambac Financial Group, Inc. (ABK)

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A holding company whose subsidiaries provide financial guarantee products and other financial services to clients in both the public and private sectors around the world.

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Avatar XMFJordan (80.36) Submitted: 12/04/07 8:06 PM : Underperform Start Price: $26.53 ABK Score: 77.36

Let me tell you a little tale about insurance for financial products.

First, you have the insurance company. This company rates risk, writes insurance, helps to improve credit ratings (taking that AA to AAA), and pays dividends to its holding company.

The holding company (in this case Ambac Financial Group, Inc.) collects dividends, attempts to squezze as much as possible from the insurance company, and trades on a stock exchange.

Now, anyone can write an insurance policy on anything. And they can charge whatever they like for it. Of course, the less they charge the more business they have.

In the beginning, this business is wonderful. You are essentially printing money. But like money, the real test comes when you need backing for that money.

In the case of Ambac (and MBIA), there is no there there. This company doesn't have the reserves or capital base to cover even a small loss in the financial products it insures.

And there are a lot of them that are in trouble. From CDOs and SIVs to bonds, etc., Ambac has billions of dollars of risk on (and off) its books.

And the only asset Ambac has is its credit rating. In the near future, once it starts taking the write downs it should be, Ambac is going to find itself needing to put up more capital as it is called upon to meet a "rating agency margin call."

But there isn't any capital to put up. And once it can't put up additional capital, it won't have anything to sell. If you thought the 75% drop was quick and huge, just wait and see what will happen when the "rating agency margin call" comes.

This one - along with MBIA - is going to zero.

Don't late anyone tell you that this one is too big to fail. If there is something which is too big to fail, it would be the insurance company. The holding company isn't important.

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Avatar podrag (87.98) Submitted: 2/19/08 6:24 AM

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Thank you very much. Very well explained. I was wondering if these guys had further to go and it almost certainly seems like they do.

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Avatar timb06 (99.35) Submitted: 6/27/08 2:22 PM

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Another thing to take into consideration, IF (and that is a very big IF), the holding company doesn't completely fail, their reputation, and rating, has been damaged and that means that it will be more difficult for them to find a revenue stream.

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Avatar professional2001 (< 20) Submitted: 7/01/08 11:27 AM

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I don't own any of the stock but I do have some bonds which I think are very attractive. I generally agree with the above analysis except that I would clarify the comment regarding whether ambac is "too big to fail." One of the reasons that I like the bonds is that I actually do think Ambac is too big to "fail" if by fail you mean go bankrupt. Estimates vary but most people agree that Ambac's insurance arm reinsures over one trillion in debt. The regulators will not, imo, let a company that size go bankrupt and even if they do the yield on some of the bonds is well worth the risk of bankruptcy imo. The commentator's point that the insurance company is a separate entity is technically correct but the insurance company is an asset of the holding company. Therefore, in the event that the holding company defaults on any bonds the bond holder would have recourse to that asset. Again, I'm not really disagreeing just clarifying. I agree that the stock price of the holding company may go to zero, but I do not think regulators will allow it to declare bankruptcy.

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