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11/27/2009 1:00 PM

FINANCIAL BULL 3X (FAS)

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Member Avatar TSIF (98.76) Submitted: 11/27/2009 9:05:06 PM : Outperform Start Price: $71.27 FAS Score: -2.04

FAS as in FASTEN YOUR Seatbelts! I play the 3X ETF's a few at a time when I have some sentiment. It could be that the scent is bad this cycle, but I think the Dubai correction was a bit overdone for US Financials. Overall, I see more up than down over the rest of this year. Short term play.

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Member Avatar fooletfs (60.76) Submitted: 11/8/2009 8:50:05 PM : Underperform Start Price: $73.74 FAS Score: +6.44

testing what's been said here on CAPs.
Do shorting all 3x ETFs mean easy net returns?
YES, IF, you rebalance once ratio goes 1.7 (or 1/1.7)

In a sideways or down market this would also translate into net points on CAPs
But your accuracy will be hurting, you'll mostly be 50% accuracy at best on this strat.
Current batch I am redthumbing here on CAPs today (at these levels):
BGU/BGZ
MWJ/MWN
TNA/TZA
FAS/FAZ

Further on my personal thoughts on this strat:
using hypothetical scenarios, actual 3x #s from '09, and 2x funds from differing periods:

Worst case scenario, this strategy loses in a year: (5%)

Best case scenarios in a year: 10%+

Should expect most returns in a year: 3-7%

In implementing this strat, pray for two things: 1) Hope your short shares don't get called back by broker & 2) if in rebalancing you wish to increase position, hope you can short more.

This strategy may be a good play to allocate comparable to the fixed income/bond allocation of portfolio or completely replace that bond allocation with this.

I would say maximum amount you sell each position is 23% of face value of account. IE a $10,000 acct, short sell a maximum $2,300 worth of each ETF.

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Member Avatar scoylesays (77.97) Submitted: 11/2/2009 2:26:08 PM : Underperform Start Price: $67.56 FAS Score: +1.69

new bear market

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Member Avatar BeautifulPlumage (99.95) Submitted: 11/2/2009 10:21:01 AM : Underperform Start Price: $70.74 FAS Score: +5.37

Short this double wt'd leveraged log ETF and its short equivalent, FAZ

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Member Avatar KENT66 (< 20) Submitted: 10/31/2009 6:11:32 AM : Outperform Start Price: $69.19 FAS Score: -3.91

THIS IS THE SYMBOL TO BUY TO SAVe THE REPUBLIC eg; " TO BUY BACK OUR COUNTRY FROM CHINA! '' AKA,''2/30'' THE GREAT PATRIOT MOVEMENT!2 hrs and 30 min's after the opening bell save the USA AND BY FAS, see KENT66blog

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Member Avatar Melaschasm (94.61) Submitted: 10/28/2009 5:00:47 PM : Underperform Start Price: $73.00 FAS Score: +8.14

This ETF has underperformed the S&P at a time when it should have been significantly outperforming the S&P.

If financial stocks run into another round of problems, this ETF will crash, if they do not, then it is likely slowly underperform the market over the course of a couple years.

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Member Avatar ShortUltras (94.11) Submitted: 10/26/2009 5:57:16 PM : Underperform Start Price: $77.90 FAS Score: +12.39

Ultra-shorts and Ultra-pros are all bad investments due to daily rebalancing

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Member Avatar slojewski (44.62) Submitted: 10/26/2009 3:39:24 AM : Outperform Start Price: $83.65 FAS Score: -17.46

has to win

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Member Avatar MightySaint (47.35) Submitted: 10/5/2009 6:04:17 AM : Underperform Start Price: $84.84 FAS Score: +20.84

The run has to end at some point, nothing goes straight up endlessly.

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Member Avatar scoobamang (88.43) Submitted: 10/3/2009 9:51:31 PM : Underperform Start Price: $74.81 FAS Score: +12.78

These ultras don't make sense, and this one's on a bubble.

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Member Avatar TalibKweli (< 20) Submitted: 10/1/2009 11:50:03 AM : Underperform Start Price: $78.28 FAS Score: +15.85

CIT pulling you down?

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Member Avatar bartleyrc (69.51) Submitted: 9/30/2009 6:46:38 PM : Outperform Start Price: $81.21 FAS Score: -17.70

Look at the technical picture here...this ETF basically tracks the S&P with slighlty more volatility. I would say as long as the S&P is going up, this ETF will ever so slightly outperform it.

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Member Avatar DCarlsonGT (89.47) Submitted: 9/22/2009 3:33:21 PM : Underperform Start Price: $89.65 FAS Score: +24.10

The financials are truly screwed, it's just the looney toons in Washington have tried to pull the blanket over our eyes...

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Member Avatar Displacement (89.21) Submitted: 9/16/2009 8:57:55 PM : Underperform Start Price: $88.04 FAS Score: +23.10

We've got a scary number of foreclosures coming up... this guy's toast

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Member Avatar automaticaev (76.91) Submitted: 9/16/2009 2:49:13 PM : Outperform Start Price: $86.78 FAS Score: -21.98

win win win win win win

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Member Avatar kenkao (< 20) Submitted: 9/9/2009 1:30:05 AM : Underperform Start Price: $73.06 FAS Score: +10.81

this ETF made this ralley under fake financial recovery. need a 20% correction..

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Member Avatar wenmon (24.87) Submitted: 9/6/2009 8:39:54 PM : Outperform Start Price: $71.76 FAS Score: -9.65

financials will continue to lead

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Member Avatar lllchicalll (82.38) Submitted: 9/2/2009 3:53:44 PM : Underperform Start Price: $76.02 FAS Score: +17.08

hdgf2

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Member Avatar PennyMania (< 20) Submitted: 8/23/2009 12:01:40 AM : Outperform Start Price: $80.11 FAS Score: -18.98

I see this dipping in Oct to $45 then shoot to $120 by 2nd qtr 2010

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Member Avatar JerryDreamer (< 20) Submitted: 8/17/2009 1:24:18 AM : Underperform Start Price: $67.28 FAS Score: +7.19

When the overly optimistic FOMC says that household spending will be "constrained" by sluggish income growth, ongoing job losses, lower household wealth, and tight credit AND Shanghai stocks hit a seven-week low, then you know this bear market rally is finally over!

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