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$44.73 -1.03 (-2.25%)
9/5/2008 4:00 PM

Herbalife Ltd. (HLF)

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A global network marketing company that sells weight management, nutritional supplement and personal care products.

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Drugs Wholesale (14), Small Cap (1922), Multi-level Marketing (7)
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Herbalife Ltd. At A Glance

Current Price: $44.73
Last Trade Time: 9/5/2008 4:00 PM
Open: $45.40
Previous Close: $45.76
Daily Range: $43.50 - $45.50
52-Week Range: $35.30 - $51.09
Volume: 1,305,804
Market Cap: $2.91B
P/E Ratio: 13.04
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Herbalife Ltd. (HLF)

Avatar LORDZPAIN (98.55) Submitted: 6/12/08 12:05 AM

Herbalife Ltd: Company ReportP.O. Box 309GT

Ugland House, South Church St.

Grand Cayman

http://www.herbalife.com
Phone: 310-4109600 Fax: 310-2587019

Industry : Drugs WholesaleEmployees : 3,600Exchange : NYSE

Herbalife Ltd. (Herbalife) is a global network marketing company that sells weight ma...More

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Herbalife Ltd. (HLF)

Avatar bigairrmv (70.87) Submitted: 11/07/07 11:46 PM

I saw their CEO on Mad Money, and he is a tool. Nuf said.

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 (HLF)

Avatar FortuneHunter6 (< 20) Submitted: 8/08/08 9:23 PM : Outperform Start Price: $45.44 HLF Score: 2.35

QG

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Avatar SBeren (72.18) Submitted: 7/14/08 11:11 AM : Underperform Start Price: $37.44 HLF Score: -19.08

Pyramid Scheme! Here are 8 pages worth reading: http://www.frauddiscovery.net/Herbalife/WallStreetFooled.pdf





Here's an excerpt: "Herbalife presents a glowing picture of new sales and expansion opportunity. In fact, the company is dependent upon continuous expansion into new territory not just for growth but survival. Yet, already, Herbalife expansion has reached more than 80% of the world’s population. After more than 20 years in the USA, Herbalife has more sales in Mexico than in its native and headquarter nation. And now Mexico is waning. Germany, the largest country in Europe, is dropping steeply. Brazil, the largest market in South America, is in decline.





Herbalife needs more territory because, as will be shown, it has no repeat customers! It is strip mining each new area it enters. 80% of all its distributors quit the scheme forever after less than one year. New replacements are Herbalife’s absolute mandate. Inevitably, new territory must be found. There is no sustainable business to build upon, only a continuously-told story about “unlimited income” to hype.





As everyone knows, a pyramid scheme pays earlier recruits with money from later ones and therefore must inevitably reach saturation. Eventually the vast majority of those at the bottom – last ones in – cannot find enough new recruits to recoup their investments. And, at all times, the bottom levels constitute the vast majority of the total. This is why pyramid schemes are defined as “inherent frauds.” By design, they harm and they must deceive.





What is commonly not understood, however, is that reaching this saturation point does not necessarily end the scheme. In fact, the pyramid scheme itself can continue even as the bottom level recruits are financially ruined. This is done by continuously replacing them! The market for the recruits is saturated but the market of recruits is not..."

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Avatar eyezondaprize (< 20) Submitted: 6/26/08 4:22 PM : Outperform Start Price: $38.52 HLF Score: 19.22

Wtih Micahael O. Johnson as CEO, Herbalife's growth is soon follow that of Walt Disney's

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Avatar jameshartland (22.33) Submitted: 6/14/08 4:59 AM : Outperform Start Price: $37.72 HLF Score: 27.29

Dedicated personnel working for this company and a product that more and more people will turn to due to health reasons.

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Avatar adventurerneil (< 20) Submitted: 6/12/08 1:43 PM : Outperform Start Price: $36.87 HLF Score: 29.07

4-star S&P pick trading near its 52-week low. S&P thinks this is undervalued by quite a lot, and has a 12 month price target of $51.

This pick is also testing out a theory from my favorite stock picking Bull, Ken Fisher: http://www.financial-planning.com/asset/article/528151/learning-love-debt.html

In the above article, Fisher argues that debt isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially if it's used to efficiently fund growth. He argues that on macro level (gov't spending), periods with increasing debt are always followed by strong periods of gains in the stock market.

I'm testing his theory out on a micro level, by picking this stock which has a fairly high level of debt. HOWEVER, the Return on Assets and Retrun on Equity are stellar for this company, indicating that perhaps the borrowing is very justified.

Conclusion - if Fisher's theory is correct on a micro level as well, this baby should beat earnings estimates and attract investor attention over the next few years.

Final note: I don't care for their products or marketing one bit. I also hate betting against top Fools like Specbear and others. This is mostly academic speculation, where I get to test a guru theory and S&P's accuracy in one pick.

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TrackCanaccord 90.25 08/06/08 Outperform NS $45.39-1.46%-2.74%+1.28
TrackWedbush 40.16 02/28/08 Outperform NS $43.23+3.47%-9.74%+13.20
TrackJefferies 91.44 12/07/07 Outperform NS $41.46+7.89%-17.83%+25.72
TrackJimCramer 82.62 05/15/07 Outperform 3W $38.47+16.26%-17.37%+33.63
TrackAvondale 94.68 03/30/07 Outperform NS $37.81+18.30%-12.51%+30.80
TrackLehmanBros 92.29 02/27/07 Outperform NS $36.80+21.54%-13.45%+35.00

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