+ Watch LL
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This company is steady up on everything - margins look good, I like the increase in cash too
Hardwood floor is very popular.
Lumber is going to be one of the hottest commodities over the next 6-9 months
PE 40, Peter Lynch value under $50 and now:End ASAP."Does this mean that Lumber Liquidators is definitely guilty of selling carcinogenic products to unaware consumers? Not necessarily. I find it a little odd that Zhou didn't include the ppm reading from NTA, and Zhou's sample size was admittedly tiny.But something tells me that this may be a problem for Lumber Liquidators. If formaldehyde does end up being an issue with China-sourced products, the company may have to pay a lot of money for testing and replacing millions of square feet of flooring throughout the country.Then again, nothing at all may come of these allegations."
Many people look down on LL, but I have used them and recommend them to persons who wish to remodel or build. Service is good, perhaps excellent. Advice is offered to confused buyers, but not to just sell a product. The company will continue to do well. I am surprised it has taken so long.
Housing boom, LL's business plan
Builders are going back to work. These products are the basis of low budget dependable quality material.
The economy is slowly picking up and from what I see locally, houses are selling much quicker. New construction is also picking up and LL is bound to capitalize on the renewed growth over the next couple of years.
LL was entered on my CAPS at $49.63.I entered this one on CAPs even though the PE was high and the big runup it has had. But I believe I have identified a growth hook that makes this one a good candidate for my portfolioMy fear for the company is that if we go into another recession, the price is going to get slaughtered. But I am rethinking that fear. It is true, if we go into a recession and the housing market is negatively affected the price is likely to crash. But if they do it will recover and it would have presented a great time to add to our positions. Even though, I noted the growth hook in previous posts, I probably didn’t recognize the combination of qualities that could keep them growing for decades. And that might be a good reason to buy some even though the PE is nearly doubled from the last time I wrote a page post on them. If we go into another recession and/or poor housing market, I will target this one as a recovery candidate. But I think it might be worth buying even at the much higher valuation.There are 13,000 to 14,000 independent lumber yards and various flooring companies. These numbers aren’t including the big box hardware stores like Home Depot or Lowes. They have advantages over both categories. The Big Box companies cannot house the variety of flooring that LL can. LL buys much of their hardwood straight from mills which gives them a pricing advantage, if not a big price advantage over the big box companies – they have an enormous pricing power over many of the independents where the majority of their market share wins are likely to come in the decades ahead. Home Depot and Lowes don’t buy any of their supplies directly from a mill another advantage for LL. So they seem to have advantages over both category of competitors.The Growth hook is so large I decided to place LL on my CAPS. And I think later I will add it to my portfolio. I believed the risk due to a failing economy very strong, but if one consider volatility as an opportunity - the long-term investments in LL: plural - should prove a good thing. This isn’t a company I would buy big amounts initially. My goal is to buy some and then buy more at better value points over time. A recession and/or renewed housing market fears is likely to bring the price down, but its long-term growth potential does seem to be very high with a few decade growth potential combined with category killer potential. I wish I had bought this one when I wrote my last page post on them for HG/RB.The other thing to consider is that it seems the housing market is doing better in the U.S. http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-09-19/markets/33941835_...Home Depot sales weren’t up much but their earnings have been moving up very nicely. But the company that is most like LL also increased sales by 20% and that is TREX. They sell wood/plastic composite materials for Decks and railings. I had a deck made from Trex boards and it looks as good as I first built it and it doesn’t need painting – and wood bees and woodpeckers leave it alone and we have plenty of both where I live. Both companies tend to go up and down together, so I think they probably serve the same demographic. What affects one is likely to affect the other. It is encouraging that both are doing very well now – perhaps that will continue. If so, even though the price has moved up a lot, it still may be a good buy because the economy is still doing well and the long-term/category killer growth potential of the company.
After an outstanding performance in Olypia 1, this stock has convinced me it is really worth buying.
OMG this stock has gotten crazy expensive! Who is buying it right here besides momentum hedge funds? Trades at 28x next year's earnings. Good luck with that.
Flooring is like mattresses, no none wants to pay full price. LL has quality products at the best prices.
Between the housing market absorbing inventory and the economy loosening a bit this looks like the time for these folks to do well.
I will eventually hold this stock but 30x earnings and an uncertain construction comeback makes me think some profit taking is due.
sucks to be late to the party. I hope they have more
Quality lumber for commercial and homeowners at a reasonable price.
cheapest goods you can find for flooring around, don't know anybody who does their own floors that does not use them
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