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Legg Mason, Inc. (LM)

CAPS Rating: 4 out of 5

The Company and its subsidiaries are principally engaged in providing asset management and related financial services to individuals, institutions, corporations and municipalities.

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Member Avatar 1medfran (61.81) Submitted: 9/8/2008 2:33:28 PM : Underperform Start Price: $44.21 LM Score: +25.07

They own too much common/preferred Freddie/Fannie. This dictates that they must underperform their peers if not the entire S&P. Unless one believes in miracles this portion of their portfolios is toast. I mean, I am an optimist but also a realist. Dump it before the world finds out the extent of their toxic exposure, please!

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Member Avatar TMFDitty (98.90) Submitted: 5/26/2008 2:20:50 PM : Outperform Start Price: $50.37 LM Score: -25.95

Legg Mason is valued at just 0.75% AUM, but the rule of thumb in investment managers calls for fair value being in the 1% to 2% range. And yet, Bill Miller is one of the best in the business -- so why is the stock trading at such a seeming discount?

Maybe Mr. Market believes continued underperformance by Mr. Miller, and a weak economy generally, will lead to further "capital flight" out of Legg. But another 50% drop in AUM (which the price implies) seems unlikely. More likely -- the stock is just plain cheap. Outperform.

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Member Avatar s1an3 (23.79) Submitted: 10/11/2006 3:19:30 PM : Outperform Start Price: $82.02 LM Score: -52.40

I've been watching this for a while, and this is too good a price point to pass up (87).

They're still having integration issues with the Citi aquisition, but once the dust settles, this will be in the 110-130 range in 6-12 months

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Member Avatar cdecroos (28.73) Submitted: 10/13/2006 9:27:17 AM : Outperform Start Price: $82.56 LM Score: -51.53

1. Well run company in desireable industry
2. Currently at 25 - 35% precent discount to intrinsic value ($89 v. intrinsic value of $115 - 125)
3. Additional upside from integration of Citibank assets about return to intrinsic value
4. Short term focus of wall street gives good entry point into company
5. Sells at discount to peer institutions

Cons:
1. Integrating citibank assests may be slow going

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Member Avatar whitepapers (88.19) Submitted: 12/12/2006 4:47:09 PM : Outperform Start Price: $85.10 LM Score: -51.28

Legg Mason, Inc

Business:
Legg Mason, Inc. is a global asset management firm that is structured as a holding company. U.S. fund families: LM Funds, LM Partners Funds, Royce Funds and Western Asset Funds. *1

Legg Mason also reiterated its plan to cut its mutual fund lineup to 119 from 166 in order to reduce product overlap caused by the Citigroup acquisition. *2 This suggests to me a disciplined approach.

Undervalued Argument
7/25/06 Missed analysts expectations for revenue
Also assets under management actually fell because of fall in equities.
Only the second time in 60 quarters that the company posted a drop in assets under management. *3

5/10/06 Beat analysts expectations for continuing operations
Yet the stock price plummeted because savings from its acquisition of Citigroup's Asset Management had not materialised as quickly as some analysts expected. *4

4/11/06 (announcement) Legg Mason to Join S&P 500 *5

My Pitch
On the day of the announcement that Legg Mason would join the S&P500 the stock actually went down as it did on the day after as well. How could the market not see this as a positive? Now millions of Americans 401k and pensions plans will own stock in LM. It seems like a simple case of demand going up while supply stays the same.

My opinion is that the market is undervaluing the company because of the uncertainty involved with their swap with Citigroup. I think this is the best time to buy. Effective assimilation is going to happen, they’ve done this too many times now - not to know what they’re doing. They may have bitten off a little much last year acquiring Permal (fund of hedge funds) and Citigroup’s Asset Management business, but that short term digestion problem means long term profits for us investors.

I can’t remember where I read this. When asked what the company was going to do with it’s increase of cash reserves, Raymond A Mason responded that they would stay the course until their reorganization is complete: they would not raise dividends nor would they pursue new acquisitions. This sounded to me like a very rational approach especially when I consider the large one time dividend given by MRH just before the onslaught of Katrina. Just months afterward, MRH was looking to raise capital.

Based on these points, I purchased 20 shares on October 26, 2006.

Cheryl Gordon Krongard new board member. I'm not very excited about this new member. My gut feeling is that her philanthropic activities will come first and her board position behind. I'm also a bit pessimistic about her currently serving on USAir. “US Airways Group filed for bankruptcy protection Sunday for the second time in two years.” *6

4/19/06 new director W. Allen Reed
Former member Board of Executives NYSE
Just retired chair GM (General Motors) Asset Management Company *7

From US Airways 2004 Annual Report *8
Cheryl G. Krongard, 49
Ms. Krongard retired in 2004 as a Senior Partner of Apollo Management,
L.P. Ms. Krongard was the Chief Executive Officer of Rothschild Asset Management from 1994 to April 15, 2000. She served as Senior Managing Director for Rothschild North America from 1994 until 2000. She serves on the board of directors of the Iowa State University Foundation and is a lifetime governor elected in 1997. She is also chairperson of the Investment Committee for the Iowa State University Foundation. Ms. Krongard is also a member of the Dean’s Advisory Council, Iowa State University College of Business, and a Trustee of the Mount Sinai Medical Center. Ms. Krongard also serves as a Director of the City Meals on Wheels and Educate, Inc., a publicly traded company engaged in tutoring and learning (formerly Sylvan Learning). Ms. Krongard is Chairman of the Corporate Governance and Nominating and Strategy and Finance Committees and a member of the Human Resources Committee of the Board of Directors. She is also a director of US Airways Group.

Raymond A. “Chip” Mason, current president, CEO and chair, will continue as chairman and CEO after Mr. Hirschmann becomes president. *9
James W. Hirschmann, III, 45, as chief operating officer of the Company effective immediately. Mr. Hirschmann will retain the title of president, which he assumed on May 1, 2006. He is also the chief executive officer of Western Asset Management (fixed income) *10

Bill Miller, CFA, has been named Chairman and will continue to serve as Chief Investment Officer and portfolio manager of all accounts he currently manages, including the Legg Mason Value Trust and the Legg Mason Opportunity Trust. *11

Michael Mauboussin, chief investment strategist at Legg Mason his book More Than You Know: Finding Financial Wisdom in Unconventional Places, *12

Purchase Arguments

A Value Opportunity at a Value Manager – Motley Fool Article *13

Article about investors fleeing underperforming funds
Actually supports sticking with Bill Miller and his willingness to stick with his convictions *14

Many compelling values in the asset manager space have presented themselves in the recent market slide -- from big dogs like Legg Mason (NYSE: LM) and BlackRock (NYSE: BLK) to smaller players like Eaton Vance (NYSE: EV), and Federated Investors (NYSE: FII). *15

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Member Avatar themattgrdt (99.89) Submitted: 10/11/2007 11:04:32 AM : Outperform Start Price: $81.22 LM Score: -38.96

A good BMW pick, plus it got picked up by a custom value screen. I'd been going back on forth on whether or not to finally give in and give this thing a thumbs up, and I've decided to take the plunge.

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Member Avatar TMFMattyA (93.79) Submitted: 4/17/2008 3:42:52 PM : Outperform Start Price: $55.81 LM Score: -32.45

Legg Mason has a strong stable of quality asset managers and brands, including the Legg Mason and Royce funds. At this moment, the company is trading at 0.75% of its total assets under management (AUM). According to famed-investor Marty Whitman, the usual fair valuation for an asset manager is 2% of AUM plus tangible book value. This approach would value Legg's shares well into the $100s. Even taking a conservative approach, expecting a decline of $100 billion in Legg's AUM due to poor performance by its equity funds, and taking a 1.2% of AUM valuation approach, I value Legg's shares north of $80. That's a nearly 50% premium to the current stock price. New CEO Mark Fetting knows what he is doing, and is an honest and able manager. This stock won't remain cheap for long.

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Member Avatar TMFBuck (71.51) Submitted: 10/12/2006 11:57:57 AM : Outperform Start Price: $82.45 LM Score: -51.34

A great company that is digesting a big purchase. Watch this high margin business model take off over the next couple of years. Post merger cost savings will kick in. Bill Miller won't lose to the market many years. Plus the CFO bought about $1 million on the open market at around $84.

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Member Avatar SafeAndCheap (99.41) Submitted: 1/9/2008 3:56:54 PM : Outperform Start Price: $65.96 LM Score: -38.33

It's simply too cheap, valued at 1% of its assets under management. It's peers are considerably more expensive. 2007 was a terrible year for LM, but they are well positioned long-term in the lucrative asset management business. Look for a bounce when Chip Mason's successor is named.

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Member Avatar nickbaes (92.60) Submitted: 2/12/2007 10:19:12 AM : Outperform Start Price: $95.72 LM Score: -51.82

Best asset managers on the planet.

Sherman, Miller, etc...

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Member Avatar missyjcase (< 20) Submitted: 8/28/2006 6:12:09 PM : Outperform Start Price: $83.66 LM Score: -56.20

i put this into my retirement portfolio based on the research i did after reading the MFool predictions. If they're right - I win!

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Member Avatar 23Ralph (< 20) Submitted: 12/16/2007 7:46:47 PM : Outperform Start Price: $69.21 LM Score: -37.47

Asset management is a scale business and Legg Mason is one of the biggest. However, the company is trading well below industry peers such as TROW and BEN. The market is partly discounting the stock because LM has more fixed income assets compared to peers but shares are too cheap.
Any short-term performance issues seem well priced into the stock already. This company generates a ton of cash, with very little capital requirements which means shareholders will be richly rewarded over time.

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Member Avatar TheGarcipian (99.21) Submitted: 12/4/2008 10:20:48 PM : Underperform Start Price: $15.61 LM Score: -50.02

Looking purely at the SlowStochastics on LM's chart, it appears this stock is currently ready for another slip down the rabbit hole. Irs financials aren't so bad, but it's in a beaten-up industry which still has some more pain to go through. I think we could see LM sink to $12/share, or perhaps more. I'll ride it down to at least that far, then I'm out of my Thumbs-Down position.

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Member Avatar TMFOpie (94.68) Submitted: 5/14/2008 10:43:25 AM : Outperform Start Price: $53.42 LM Score: -26.92

One of the best money management firms selling at a reasonable price. The market isn't sure what to think about the near-term prospects but long-term the story is much more attractive. I see shares worth more than $100.

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Member Avatar TopDividendPayer (98.99) Submitted: 12/1/2008 10:06:48 AM : Outperform Start Price: $16.13 LM Score: +47.80

This CAPS account is tracking the 200 highest yielding S&P stocks.

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Member Avatar ryanman000 (99.13) Submitted: 10/29/2008 2:13:47 AM : Outperform Start Price: $13.52 LM Score: +93.20

tracking for a buy

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Member Avatar jackizbackn09 (68.83) Submitted: 11/20/2008 7:18:01 PM : Outperform Start Price: $13.08 LM Score: +74.62

THIS WILL BE MY ONLY FINANCIAL PICK FOR NOW

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Member Avatar phwting (72.89) Submitted: 11/6/2008 7:52:31 PM : Outperform Start Price: $18.62 LM Score: +31.86

Financial advisor and mutual funds that the baby boom generation will need.

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Member Avatar ivanhoe1 (26.30) Submitted: 2/21/2007 4:31:08 PM : Outperform Start Price: $100.01 LM Score: -51.80

I think this is a good company to invest in.

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Member Avatar TMFRedwood (89.81) Submitted: 7/25/2008 9:48:38 AM : Outperform Start Price: $36.89 LM Score: -12.41

There are two risks with LM - underperformance risk and SIV exposure. The June 2008 quarter indicates that LM stopped the bleeding in terms of performance, and that outflows were confined to its least profitable business. The SIV issue is still out there, but is a liquidity issue rather than a solvency issue.

The company also reduced compensation costs by 15% in the quarter, more than the 13% decrease in revenues.

Market cap is $5.3 billion and in the June quarter the company generated $124 million in earnings (excluding a money market charge). $500 million in annual earnings puts the company at a 10x P/E.

There are still risks in further outflows but perhaps the company is turning a corner. The part of the business that includes Bill Miller showed its third consecutive quarter of lower client outflows, and performance beat the S&P in the last quarter by about 3 percentage points.

Legg Mason, welcome to my CAPS portfolio!

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