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January 16, 2009 – Comments (11)

This week, in a speech before the London School of Economics, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke offered a perverse economic theory in his quest to gather support for never-ending Wall Street bailouts; “This disparate treatment, unappealing as it is, appears unavoidable. Our economic system is critically dependent on the free flow of credit, and the consequences for the broader economy of financial instability are thus powerful and quickly felt.” In other words, credit is the lifeblood of our economy, and the continued operation of credit providers is an issue of national security.

In truth, not all economies run on credit. But over the last decade, the United States became a bubble economy that needed unlimited credit to keep from collapsing. In a legitimate economy, it is not credit that fuels spending and investment, but simply income and savings. It’s too bad our Fed chairman does not understand the difference.

That American families now routinely rely on credit to make every-day purchases is a habit that needs to be broken and not encouraged. What we need in America is more restraint and less indulgence. For example, Americans in the current economy should not go into debt to buy new cars. Given the level of debt that weighs down the typical family, Americans should defer such purchases until they have paid down existing debt, or replenished their savings to the point where they can afford to pay cash. Until that time, Americans should continue driving their old cars. In the meantime, the untapped savings could be made available to local businesses that would use it to finance badly needed capital investments.

But such a drastic reversal in financial culture represents the kind of change that no one in the outgoing or incoming Administrations appears willing to consider. By providing perpetual support to lenders who have bankrupted themselves through bad loans, the government merely guarantees that bad economic behavior will continue.

Credit is indeed vital to an economy, but it does not constitute an economy within itself. The important thing to remember is that credit is scarce, and is limited by the stock of savings. Savings loaned to one individual is not available to be loaned to another until it is repaid. If it is never repaid, the savings are lost. Loans to consumers not only crowd out more productive loans that might have been made to business, but they have a far greater likelihood of ending in default. In addition, while business loans increase our capital stock and lead to greater productivity, loans made to consumers are merely spent, and do not create conditions that will make repayment easier. When businesses borrow to fund capital investments, the extra cash flows that result are used to repay the loans. When individuals borrow to spend, loans can only be repaid out of reduced future consumption.

One of the reasons we are in such dire straits is that consumers have already borrowed and spent too much. Many did so based on the false belief that ever-appreciating real estate would ultimately provide the means to repay their debts and finance their lifestyles. Now that reality has finally set in, why should the spending spree continue? The fact that a GDP comprised of 70 percent of consumption is currently contracting should not surprise anyone. In fact, such a contraction is long overdue and the government should not do anything to interfere.

In trying to perpetuate the illusion, the government wants to revive the spending spree that has led us to this disaster. But how can such actions possibly help? How will more debt improve the economy? Wouldn’t our circumstances be vastly improved if we paid off some of our debts and replenished our savings? Wouldn’t we be in better shape if instead of buying more stuff we concentrated on producing it?

The unpleasant reality is that years of bad monetary and fiscal policy have over encumbered our economy with debt and undermined our industrial capacity. The sooner we can begin to repair the damages, the sooner we can right the ship. If instead we merely administer more of the same, the ship will sink in a sea of inflation.

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#1) On January 16, 2009 at 5:11 PM, awallejr (81.43) wrote:

What's the point of producing if people don't buy?  Buying on credit has gone on since the early 1900s where people put things on lay-away plans.  Ever watch The Honeymooners?  Compare Ralph's apartment to Norton's.  Norton did the lay-away plans, Ralph did cash and carry.

Don't confuse responsible debt management with irresponsible lending and borrowing.  Let's keep them in Potter's Field paying rent on crap abodes instead of Bailey Park.

The unpleasant reality is what I have written over and over.  You had greedy, unregulated, free market lenders/brokers/appraisers run amok causing a massive real estate/debt bubble which was DESTINED to burst.  Bernanke is doing the right things in my opinion.  Had he done what people like Schiff want you would have a DOW 3000 and massive layoffs now with bread lines eclipsing those of the Great Depression. 

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#2) On January 19, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Tonbot (< 20) wrote:

awallejr,

What's the point of producing if people don't buy?

People ALWAYS buy, the question is at what price. If people produce more, prices will come down, or the goods will be exported. Either way, more production is good.

Don't confuse responsible debt management with irresponsible lending and borrowing.

Schiff is not confusing the two. He clearly says that credit plays an important role in the economy, but it is not a whole economy on its own. It can't carry the burden of every thing. There need to be savings and earnings to fund the credit.

You had greedy, unregulated, free market lenders/brokers/appraisers run amok causing a massive real estate/debt bubble which was DESTINED to burst.  Bernanke is doing the right things in my opinion.

 UNREGULATED!???  Regulations are more extensive than ever in history. Small financial firms/banks cannot even operate in many sectors due to Byzantine regulations.

Meanwhile, Madoff got away with flouting dozens of SEC regulations because he was friends with SEC officials, and donated to Democrats on Banking Oversights Committees.

Regulations and regulatory bodies are always bought by the biggest fish in the industry, and used to keep competition out.

Regulations are useless. People need to learn to depend on themselves.

CRA regulations, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Reserve are responsible for the banking crisis, not lack of regulations.

Had he done what people like Schiff want you would have a DOW 3000 and massive layoffs now with bread lines eclipsing those of the Great Depression

We will never go back to bread lines, no matter how badly the politicians fuck it up, because society is technologically more advanced and dozens of times more productive today than in the 1930's.

Stop with the stupid fearmonger and idolizing of Bernanke and big government.

Big government leads to inefficiency and structural problems in the economy which culminate in financial crisis.


 

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#3) On January 19, 2009 at 12:09 PM, awallejr (81.43) wrote:

People don't always buy.  We are seeing that now.  Saying we need to shift to manufacturing is simply a meaningless generic statement.  Manufacture what?  In order to compete with Asian countries on a general manufacturing level you would have to drop the national wage prices dramatically and lower than them. That isn't where we should be trying to head, namely backwards.

You and Schiff talk as if every American has zero savings and defaulting on all their loans.  Guess what, they aren't.

I do stand corrected on use of the term "unregulated", and I realized the exposure after I hit post.  What I should have said was the reckless indifference and lack of ENFORCEMENT as well as the watering down of certain regulations (like expanding the leverage rate and allowing brokerage houses to get in the mortgage business).  Had just the last two points not been changed I submit we wouldn't be facing the catastrophe we are now.

And while people should depend upon themselves, the reality of life and the lessons of history is that people WILL take advantage of people.  One of the whole points of a nation built on laws is to protect society.

And don't give me that "fearmongering" crap with Schiff.  It is "realitymongering."  He wants the system to fold in hopes a new order will arise out of the ashes.  And how many people get hurt needlessly in the process?

I'm no fan of big government.  And I blame the government for alot of the current mess.  But I sure as hell am no longer a fan of let the free market decide because we have already seen the chaos that has caused.

Prudent, decisive action is needed.  Liquidity has to be maintained as the Country continues to absorb the excesses. And while I would agree that Big government leads to ineficiency who cares if it also leads to helping the vast majority in the end.  It is all about PEOPLE afterall.

 

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#4) On January 20, 2009 at 6:41 AM, MarkFG (< 20) wrote:

Question.

In Mr. Schiff's latest OpEd he stated, "Wouldn’t we be in better shape if instead of buying more stuff we concentrated on producing it?"

My question is, "How can we go back to being producers when our laborers can not compete against foreign labor rates, working conditions, environmental standards, and health benefits."

I have read and agree with much that Mr. Schiff has to say, but I have not seen an elaboration on this point in any of his columns.

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#5) On January 20, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Tonbot (< 20) wrote:

allawer, I gave a lengthy reply and posted it, but now it's gone for some reason, so I'm reposting.

People don't always buy.  We are seeing that now. 

People do always buy, the question is where are they buying the products and at what price. If Americans can't afford the products being produced, they will be sold in other countries. Manufacturers will not leave their products in inventory forever, they will drop the price until the inventory is cleared out.

At the moment it would be good if Americans reduced consumption so foreign exporters stopped selling to Americans and Americans stopped going into more debt.

Saying we need to shift to manufacturing is simply a meaningless generic statement.  Manufacture what?  

American manufacturers are hampered by over-regulation and taxation. You stop that and Americas will export every thing.

I do stand corrected on use of the term "unregulated", and I realized the exposure after I hit post.  What I should have said was the reckless indifference and lack of ENFORCEMENT as well as the watering down of certain regulations (like expanding the leverage rate and allowing brokerage houses to get in the mortgage business).  Had just the last two points not been changed I submit we wouldn't be facing the catastrophe we are now.

 

The democratic process is too ineffective and slow to appoint good regulators. We have to count on Obama to appoint good regulators, what if he doesn't? Then we have to wait 4-8 years for the next administration? And what if they don't? It could be 20 years before an administration/party comes into power that appoints good regulators.

Relying on the democratic process to appoint good regulators is hopeless.

The market needs to self-regulate, and believe me, if the government takes away the corporate safety net, and a few large banks go bankrupt, the rest of the banks will QUICKLY start self-regulating and adopting more responsible practices.

He wants the system to fold in hopes a new order will arise out of the ashes.  And how many people get hurt needlessly in the process?

The system will fold, unless the government listens to Peter Schiff.

I'm no fan of big government.  And I blame the government for alot of the current mess.  But I sure as hell am no longer a fan of let the free market decide because we have already seen the chaos that has caused.

Prudent, decisive action is needed.  Liquidity has to be maintained as the Country continues to absorb the excesses. And while I would agree that Big government leads to ineficiency who cares if it also leads to helping the vast majority in the end.  It is all about PEOPLE afterall.

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#6) On January 20, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Tonbot (< 20) wrote:

awallejr,

And while I would agree that Big government leads to ineficiency who cares if it also leads to helping the vast majority in the end.  It is all about PEOPLE afterall.

The key to national well being is efficiency. If you want the vast majority to be helped, then you need to promote efficiency. More efficiency means more income, more savings, more production, more earnings, and more development.

 

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#7) On January 20, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Tonbot (< 20) wrote:

One more point,

But I sure as hell am no longer a fan of let the free market decide because we have already seen the chaos that has caused.

The free market has not decided. The government in the US is monstrously big, 40% of GDP, and regulations are very very extensive in the financial sector. It is big government that has led to decay and collapse of the US financial sector.

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#8) On January 23, 2009 at 12:39 AM, awallejr (81.43) wrote:

And how many millions must continue to suffer as the so called free market is left to self correct, the same free market that caused all this castrophe to begin with?  So let the crooks and rich always benefit while the average Joe continues to bear the brunt. Sorry Charley, not falling for that crap again.

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#9) On February 01, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Tonbot (< 20) wrote:

As many as necessary. The alternative is a dysfunctional economy that stagnates or degrades.

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#10) On February 01, 2009 at 2:44 AM, awallejr (81.43) wrote:

Glad you aren't in "power."

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#11) On February 01, 2009 at 2:46 AM, awallejr (81.43) wrote:

And yeah you can comeback as say "ditto" but at least I am not hurting folks.

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